To be fair, this community isn’t exactly the best to talk to. It’s a mixed bag of either conversation, complaining, vulgarity, peace, ideas, or a good time all wrapped up but AGS sticks its hand into the bag having the draw of 9 outa 10 being complaining, hating, bitching & whining.
Communication is a 2 way street. AGS needs to work on it, but so does the community.
I call bs on that.
They just aren’t communicating about things the community wants to know about lol
And I don’t mean oh wow in 2 weeks we will get a vlog vid about the FSS experience and why they did what.
They could easily come out 2-3days prior, welcome players back and say/warn about potential issues again.
You know, the most basic of basic shite. Or even come out and apologize and say you’re trying.
Literally whatever floats your boat.
People are giving this game a 2nd chance. This is literally the BEST THING any community could do.
So no, people don’t have to be sorry now. They likely won’t get a 3rd one. In a year AoC and Riots mmo going to be closer and ppl will just hopp back in the meantime to FFXIV and WoW.
yeah thats everything u can do, if u want to play new world, just wait and waiste your time. always have to wait.
they got nothing fixed what they need to fix. 1 year later and its the same shit game. nothing has changed they didnt learn…
Take a good look at what kind of posts majority pop up on the forums since Day 1.
People expect the world from a company with 12 years of App games under their belt vs companies with 5 - 30yrs of mmo’s under theirs. Its clear as day from the way their pipeline functions.
It’s not a question of being “sorry” it’s a question of communication. If 100 posts call you a stupid piece of shit. and only 1 - 5 posts try to be constructive about it. How do you cycle through that? They’re not machines either.
As for AoC. It has from all the videos & gameplay a structure. NW will probably not have that for another couple years. Or AoC will be a bust. FFXIV & WoW are both games from franchises & companies that have been around for 30 - 40 years.
In the end it doesn’t matter.
I understand what you’re saying. But reality isn’t all cozy. If people leave for WHATEVER reason. They lose revenue, and maybe their jobs.
And there’s certain behaviours that can make one aggressive side if you wanna call it more approachable and forgivable.
FFXIV did that. People weren’t fond of endless queues on Endwalker aswell. Especially since you also got kicked out of it randomly.
They came out, made a public statement that they are sorry. Kicks won’t happen anymore. If they do you get a reserve time. They’re terribly sorry and hope you as a community can understand us that we can’t get servers and won’t add more. PPL got a full month of free playtime, sales were stopped. And the result doesn’t even matter, what mattered was the way of handling the issue
And you know what. People sat in the 10k people queues for 3hours and noone cared. It shifted the attitude within days.
that is a repectable approach. in saying that japan is known for effiency and even give out tokens to give to your boss if the train is more than a minute late.
None of it matters then. It all does or none at all.
SE had prior knowledge of mmo’s from FFXI. Didn’t stop the FFXIV from having to do the whole Realm Reborn spiral because even heavy hitting game companies are not immune to fails. If anything AGS has at least held strong into launching & maintaining the game despite everything. Unlike Crucible that didn’t even make it through beta when it got scrapped.
When AGS communicates → Complaints, Negativity → Blame
When AGS doesn’t communicate → Complaints, Negativity → Blame
They can come out and make 100 public statements the community will simply set them ablaze at the stake. That’s the kind of community we have.
3 hour queues, 4, 5, 10. This is a normal in an MMORPG.
I disagree.
I agree tho it’s normal to have queues.
What’s not normal is locking out friends to join together despite queues.
So idk, in my book all of this is a fail. And reviews hurt. Reviews are what got people back to give the game another chance.
I really like NW and just wanted it to succeed, but I sniffed a bit too much hopium just like last year.
As pvper I also am quite annoyed with a ton of stuff rewardswise ing. So despite me not starting new there, seeing this mess makes me just want to not even login anymore. But we will see how it keeps up in some days
And the communication till now has been pretty bad.
The NW channel did some good things, but I’d say for the mess they created now several times. It’s just not enough. And it’s still better to get flamed by a high playerbase who still buys stuff, than a caring nice one with barely any revenue.
The internet is hard and be swayed in both sides, but this here is clearly not working.
I’m not of course trying to insinuate that AGS is without blame. Just not going to give them the whole blame. AGS has no experience in an MMO much less a AAA game and have been making mistakes that are expected from a first game basis.
What I argue is that the forum doesn’t have a clue or at least a portion of it has no idea how to give any kind of criticism. Negative criticism can be composed without the buzz words, chaotic tone, anger, rage n so on. Then it sparks conversation which then leads to a difference of views for ags to read through and make informed decisions based on both sides. When its the blame posts, well, that’s just Forum PvP.
In terms of what I am. PvX would fit. Though I play on average just about all genres. Some more more than others. PvP to PvE. I was drawn for the PvP here. No level of hopium was enough to prevent the utter disappointment of how lack luster war is, how boring opr is, how dumb tag simulator 3v3’s are, how bad the balancing is, blatant favoritism of some weapons over others, no genuine progression in PvP, faction quests are redundant, open world died in 3 weeks of launch, and for 1 whole year I waited for PvP to be fun. And for 1 year I have been disappointed, n yet I still sit here playing. Or its hopium, or its to see it through till it dies for real.
I didn’t expect much comm from a APP Store set of Devs.
I can go on for days the number of times AGS confused the shit out of me with their backwards decisions. But really, if the community wasn’t so hell bent on hating ags half the time. (Not all) but many.
If Devs & Player want it genuinely then, just for 1 day maybe start of every month, have Devs open a special forum thread where they freely talk. None of that parrot policy response. Real talk but 1000% enforce ToS, and kick out anyone that starts shit from that specific chat thread.
The worst hit was losing 99% of the playerbase. With such a huge amount of people some will just voice their frustration in different ways. That’s the beauty of freedom of speech.
But I still belive rude critique, no matter how harsh, is way way waay better than just silent abscence.
Forums are always a place to vent. Why else would people waste time here.
If there’s nothing to vent people will just play.
Not to mention that many here view suggestions as toxic attitude aswell
While also if people suggest together sth. likely good for the game and it keeps ruining the experience ingame. Peoples frustration grows, and thus the words they choose.
Mine definitely does. I enjoy pvp. I don’t enjoy running m10’s with sweats who want to clear in 15min tops.
But I have to, because I do not want a static, and I can’t get my gear up without wasting hours with no end for shards.
I disagree, rude critique offers nothing but wasted time spent when read.
I ran M10’s for awhile but they’re so boring & easy. Made to be the exact same dungeon with extra steps and a rating score.
OPR being locked at 60 has always been redundant.
I probably won’t enjoy PvP for awhile until AGS decides what NW is suppose to be.
As for the shards. 10 wins a day I can get 6k a week. But we both know probably neither of us play casually, so 1-3 days for 20k shards from OPR.
For me, this FSS launch is premature. It should have been after a few years and a full revamp. Now its here, so either AGS learned from day 1, or the exact same life & death will take place in the weeks to come.
Wtf. I you get 100per win. Some games go up to 40m.
You could literally say best case scenario if you play a lot is like 350shards a day.
350 * 7 = 2450
daily 4 gypsums? = 1600 * 7 = 11200
And let’s be generous 1 from track + 2k or so
So yea. if you play a shitton, you’re at like 10-20k a week.
To get a single set to max you need around 90k shards. Let’s say 100k cuz sometimes we switch stuff out.
So 3-5months if we take some days break to get a single set up.
It’s a joke. Sprouting nonsense about classvariety
And yea I disagree with the critique. The game could’ve just died and they wouldn’t maybe even understand why. But they like to blame players for their own shortcommings. They did it for the first months in New World (oh those bad ice gaunlet users, why don’t they just deinstall)
And in Lost Ark they pulled that of for 2months aswell before actually acknowleding their own issues, even if just barely.
So they’re no cute nice small company acting all right. I wouldn’t blame players on that, cause if both act immaturely it’s just stupid from any adults perspective
Yes and? Some matches are also very short because enemy team or ally team are all bows that won’t get on point lol. 90% of the time I just play with 600 sets to horde Umbral for later.
Chanting “game is dead” “Game is dying” “Game will die if you don’t do this” “Game is dead because you won’t do this this or that” is not critique. “Ags your stupid” “AGS wants to kill its own game” “AGS should lose their jobs” is still not critique. There’s hundreds of these posts dating all the way to back to last year.
Neither side is innocent. None the less the game has reached Y1.