Gold Duplication from Character_Persist_Failure post 2

Well they did say “We are reviewing them now and any players found deliberately using this condition to gain advantage will be banned for exploiting. We will also remove items or gold received where appropriate.”.

I wonder what will be your reaction if you got hit by a banhammer because their review turned out that you gain advantage from this exploit even though you’re really innocent. I mean that’s a possibility because maybe a person that duped was in your server and bought plenty of your items being sold in TH. Sucks to be you if that happens or sucks to be the innocent person who got banned just because his items are bought by the person who duped.

If they won’t ban people who gained a lot through TH because of people who duped then congratulations to them ey? free gold. lol.

are you for real?
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if you really think that fixing some random roleplayer bugs is more important than this screenshot for example, then idk i guess you deserve this game.

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Yeah, that’s the problem. We don’t know what’s the size of this - globally and on different servers. If AGS released data to check, I could believe it’s not that big deal. When the say they “addressed the problem” it doesn’t mean anything at all (remember we’re talking about team that can’t fix outpost rush and other bugs for weeks).

They have fixed the bug it looks like. But we are talking about the lingering damage to the economy after that bug was already exploited, two different things. We all have effort and time to lose in case of a rollback, but if the economy gets ruined, we all have to lose much more than than in the long term. I just wish people would understand this.

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Ok. I used to develop frontend/backend web and it’s nothing like what we are playing. I’ve built and managed online games as well, including probably the two largest RS Private Servers. I also write Java and Python. I didn’t ask for a resume nor am I trying to give one. Doesn’t give me any relevance regarding the lack of data we ALL share.

I’m not trying to enter a debate so stop looking for one. If you can’t take simple talking points with out dragging it out into some debate for you to try to “one up” someone, you’re barking up the wrong tree.

You’re clearly not done, and not blowing anything but your own ego. So spare me your banalities, your attempt to “out class” me, and your attempt to belittle. It’s just sad. You clearly must not develop things that work because your mentality isn’t algorithmic at all. It’s just too easy to press a button with you when I didn’t even have to try. You must be fun at parties.

In every MMO gold buys everything, in every MMO there are bugs, in every MMO there are gold sellers/buyers, in every MMO there are KNOW IT ALL COOL GUYS like you who have an opinion on everything and judge everyone but can’t take a good hard look in the damn mirror LOL

Enjoy your day bro, hope it gets better. Maybe take your own advice on the assumptions too.

the same person who will complain about rollback will complaining about not selling their 600GS stuffs because everyone will have 200 on that same skill

I think we should get at least a little more information about the bug before it is swept under the rug, mainly:

  • Where the exploited gold was “traded”, aka which servers were affected (if it is actually the small number of players as we were told)

  • If the exploited/laundered gold was removed completely from the economy or only from the accounts of those who used the exploit

  • Exactly how many players were able to utilize the exploit to their benefit

  • Follow-up posts monitoring the economies of the affected servers and what steps were taken to remedy them

I have a feeling we won’t get any of this though.

some of us still stuck in the gulag for over 24 hours at this point even though the problem is apparently fixed

I was only mentioning that because you said “none of you are devs”, not trying to one up you, nor trying to impress anyone. There is no ego to be blown, I just want to enjoy a game that doesn’t break in its first month. Enjoy your day too.

Yeah, I’m for real? I listed a bunch of bugs. This was new to me when I logged in today, just like it’s new for all you dweebs.

Do you really believe they have a working script without errors for this?

Do you play solo or what? If yes, then i really don’t know what you feel because i run with my company and gets carried :stuck_out_tongue: . Because after just 1 day of grinding with my company i got my watermark to 570 for some items. Didn’t really needed to go grind again though since i’m grinding voidbent at the moment. Maybe RNGesus just loves me that day but i really didn’t feel any annoyance during our run.

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Their queue system showed they already set this game up for failure from the start. Server’s are this way so they can merge dead ones.

They’re being forced to probably rush content now and these are all things they should’ve thought about prior, taken a look at other MMO’s in the past failures etc. Still, just hard to please everyone.

Anyways, I’m going to actually go play the game now.

Must be nice. Took me 4 days to get one 562 GS item lol

Why do you continue to post this inaccurate information?

This specific exploit was abused for over 14 hours before the devs locked server transfers.

If you can’t imagine how much damage was done in 14 hours then the conversation is beyond salvaging. That said, it’s moot because other duping gold exploits have been privately reported since launch. I wasn’t in the alpha or beta phases, but my understanding is they were reporting gold dupe exploits since then that still weren’t fixed on launch (the same that some of us reported after launch).

So not only has gold duping been going on for at least 14 hours, best case scenario, some form of it has been going on since launch and some companies have known about them since pre-launch and hit the game upon launch day with a notebook of exploits.

If you don’t think any of this is a problem I can’t do much to change your mind but that’s a separate issue from you repeatedly mis-stating the problem and minimizing it. That’s a form of straw-man fallacy.

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Its fake im sure, devs says 500k is cap

Gold sellers would’ve been the biggest hint of what servers this happened on and as far as I can see from doing research - it’s about 4-5 servers. There’s no indication it’s been going on since launch as the only people who they claimed exploited it were transfers.

They won’t be able to necessarily
Remove it unless the accounts they ban have it or they can definitively trace a pile of coins transferred from A to B. My guess is they won’t sweat the coin itself if it’s in the wild. Not really worth too many man hours. The accounts responsible are the big fish.

yeah yeah you be sure :slight_smile:

Watermarking is based on drops and what you have equipped. You can only buy so much but either way, the gear isn’t as make or break as it is the level, the build and player. There is no “get the beat gear and just win”. Players ability and teamwork > Gear Score