Great Axe and War Hammer need a nerf

[bottemtext]

Testing Melee Weapons

current lunges as of ptr if it is in between two numbers it will be put as X.5 light max range for damage GA-3.5 3.5 HA-4 4 WH-5 5 SnS-4 4 Spear-4.5 5 Rapier-4 4 VG-4 4 heavy GA-5 5 HA-4 4 WH-5.5 5.5 SnS-5.5 5.5 Spear-6 6 Rapier-4 4 VG-6.5 …

this is some I did.

[Sleen]

“As a mage DPS type”

ok dude learn to use you range and dodge rolling to your advantage. i say this as a glass cannon ranged DPS. YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO DIE NEAR INSTANTLY IF THEY CATCH YOU.

[Hiply]

@Codiichan

600 gear score Void Gauntlet that deals 152 void damage while War Hammers with the same gear score deal 237 strike damage and great axe deals 231 slash damage. That alone is a 79-85 point difference in damage.

Well…

@Recksters

Since when damage per hit is the same as damage per second? In what world? What universe?

…this is exactly it.

White damage per hit =/= DPS

Your VG hits faster than GA or WH

Damage ÷ Seconds (time to execute a normal attack) = DPS. For example (not actual #s because I don’t know the attack times off the top of my head); let’s say the GA in your example takes 1.5 seconds for a normal attack and your VG takes 1:

231 ÷ 1.5 = 157 (GA DPS=157) 151 ÷ 1 = 151 (VG DPS = 151) which is further modified by personal stats affected damage per hit but let’s stick to base DPS here.

What is the calculated DPS for a 600 GS VG vs a 600 GS WH or GA given identical allocations to primary & secondary stats? Without that, your complaint has no context.

[MadeInVN]

Lol this thread still going on?

I have several videos of me at near 100% HP standing still trading with a Void blade user who was at 30% HP. He got me to 20% HP within 3s while losing 10-15% HP in the process. His life steals kept him alive.

No current melee build other than maybe a CC chain one can 1v1 a VG/Ice player. A 700 tooltip dmg VG can trade blows with a 1400 dmg GA, it’s absurd. If Int weapons had the same tootip as GA, there would be no contest.

[Aodan]

1. Why are you running 400+ int dude… like there is tons of information on the game that anything past 350 is horribly scaled.
2. You should be running AT LEAST 100-150 con as any “glass cannon”.
3. VG is a clear melee counter, very clear, because once voidcaller comes up, our only option is stun/get out and wait for it to drop.
4. IG/VG is specifically very anti everything and super strong, while VG/RP and VG/FS isn’t that far behind.

You need to play a mage better and spec better. That is your problem.

[TAXEVDR]

It’s already been nerfed lol anymore and GA/WH will be unplayable

[GravityCorp]

And here another troll post

[Ymrith]

Mage calling for a nerf on GA/WH should trig autoclose the post seriusly.

[ivan4oeg]

You can’t out-trade a VG blade, if there are more than 1 of you in it, he leeches even more. If you see that purple circle drop down and the VG blade come out, just don’t engage. It’s a sad story, but true.

[Valords]

If your number are correct that really sad Rapier more lunges then GA with like what x3 the attack speed…

[ragar200]

This is clearly posted by a whiny casual that has no clue how the game works.

[Xyshina]

@Faoiltiarna

you cant get chain flattened since 2 flattens in a row result in free dodge roll. Flatten can also be blocked with Grit, it is simply a stronger stagger. However, stuns reset the stagger counter and so you can be chain ccd with flatten → stun → flatten which requires quite some coordination

You can, and it happens constantly in wars. The mix of stagger locks / flattens / ice rain + gravs makes any melee without 300 str (grit) garbage. You can’t get your free dodge roll if you are gravd or ice rained, which 90% of the time is happening on top of being flattened or stagger locked.

[provision]

Just you are noob

[Borges]

Cc is fine except on VG. Ice gaunt is getting a cc buff lol. Spike is being fixed. Rapier could use a riposte nerf from 12s to 15s.

[bottemtext]

It gonna need to be a bit more with the cc reduction it has.

[gang]

LOL remove the ice gauntlet its broken it causes desync to all the melee in this game, actually if u rework the ice wall making it alot smaller and like maybe make it so it doesnt root u in place for 10 sec, like how does this fit in with the gameplay of this game like what

[Potawatomii]

Any update?

[Potawatomii]

@BRGF Still no response from you regarding this.

[Orluk]

The OP made no reference to pvp just the base stats of the weapons yet so many of you responded with pvp arguments seems like you might have some issues of your own to work out

Two community mods in the same thread in minutes yet there are so many others with intelligent discussions going on who don’t even get a hey what’s up all we’re hearing you and we’ll pass this along to the dev’s. Just a little strange isn’t it?

[HammerDownNY]

a good mage is the bane of my existence as a GA/WH user. a good mage can kill we with out me getting him half health. if your build isnt working for you change it up a little bit. being a mage you want to try to keep at medium range, a lot of moving, ive noticed pvp in NW isnt as quick as some other games, ive had fights agaist trash players that last 2 second, ive had fights that we both bow out because 10 min later neither of us were even at half health. thats just how it goes.