Greataxe lunge post

[Priestess-Zuxana]

keep proving my point lol

[see_me_comin]

you dont have a point, so its not possible.

later kid

[Pointe]

@see_me_comin

this proves you were destroyed.

This proves nothing LOL. Look, Imma go ahead and start screenshotting those for you as the weeks come and go or whatever because I want to see where this goes

[Pointe]

Also imma need to see your “credentials”

[Priestess-Zuxana]

WTB PvP credentials

[Priestess-Zuxana]

Also if anyone has any in-game clout for sale that would be great too

[jjmcleanenator]

@HollowChoir

I will start this post by saying that the great axe nerf is absolutely warranted in my opinion but it also points out what seem to be oversights with the current combat system. New World’s combat last year was extremely different from what we have today, with stagger on every hit and the grit mechanics it was very heavily inspired by dark souls, Melee attacks lock you into animations and the combat felt heavy and every attack had meaning. Fast forward to our current combat, Stagger on light and heavy attacks is gone but the animation locking on attacks remains. This is where the Greataxe (and other melee weapons) Lunge come in to play. Lunge is a catchup mechanic that allows melee to stay on target and is currently needed since enemies cannot be staggered by regular attacks and without lunge most players can walk slowly backwards out of your attacks. Now this is not a thread crying about Greataxe nerf, the lunge in its previous state was absolutely overbearing and is in a better spot now. The biggest issue I see is the fact that lunge needs to be a thing at all, due to animation locks that are still in the game from the old combat system that has more or less been scrapped. This game is not darksouls inspired anymore it just isn’t and im fine with that, But i believe with the removal of the animation locks or just allowing melee to control their character more while swinging lunge would not need to exist in the first place. It feels super wrong to have animation lock dark souls inspired combat when regular attacks dont even stagger anymore. I personally believe the game would be much better if they implemented the following changes.

1. Remove animation locking from melee, and ranged light attacks

2. Make the game less clunky and Improve overall fluidity of movement. Allow us to turn on a dime instead of a the clunky slide we get when changing directions. The best way I can describe this is that I feel like im controlling a character but I want to feel like I AM the character. give us more control over our movement.

3. Remove the brief moment where you cannot move after performing a melee attack. this was introduced sometime this last year and to me has just made the game feel more clunky than ever.

4. Improve weapon swap fluidity but thats a given and doesn’t directly relate to this post.

   A game that to me always did melee combat super well was Darkfall online and New world reminds me of a modern (yet watered down) version. Melee vs ranged in Darkfall was a game of skill, aim, and tracking.

DARKFALL RISE OF AGON PVP - YouTube This video showcases the game for anyone curious.

I believe New World is an amazing game with fun combat that would be so much more fun if it was less clunky with a higher skill ceiling. The game needs more outplay potential otherwise builds and gear will dictate most fights and we will be stuck in an endless buff and nerf cycle.

TLDR: Please remove animation locks and lunge and make the combat more fluid, now that the game has moved away from being dark souls inspired.

I think Muskets ought to have a more realistic reload time. When someone gets set on fire by a fire staff user, they die, people dumb enough to get hit by a great ax should loose a limb or be staggered for a few minutes.

[Wutever]

Removing inertia and animation locks would just turn this game into a generic ice-skating simulator. Might as well go play Guild Wars 2 or ESO then. At least those games work.

If anything, I’d like to see the return of stagger if not on all attacks then on specific ones. Soulslike-inspired combat is literally the only thing NW has going on for it right now at end-game.

Skill ceiling could easily be raised in other ways, such as adding frame-perfect blocking (think, Sekiro), generic parries or other mechanics from soulslike and fighting games. AGS don’t need to reinvent the wheel, they just find the right nuts and bolts that are already out there.

[HollowChoir]

ESO has soft aim and guild wars is tab target it would be nothing like either of those

[Indignation]

Right now it’s a stop and frisk simulator.

[PhysOmega]

the game isn’t super refined as an action game.

However the idea of removing animation locks all over the place doesnt improve it as a 3rd person action game, it probably makes it worse.

that type of thing works for fps, but in third person games with melee, the whole game is about interaction.

when you see that video, you notice its basically just floating around hitting and getting hit.

now, this game does need to handle the whole action combat better, it will probably only get worse with time, as they probably didnt keep or develop many specialist developers in tweaking action combat, but they will be making changes without experts.

I think the best answer is to hire some action combat specialist devs and have them keep improving things.

[Dzty]

Here’s one of 10 OPR’s you believe serve as proof of credibility… By the way you didn’t respond to my comment about GA/WH having everything required to be successful, and then some. You conveniently ignored my attempt at a rational debate. Or was kiting your counter argument…? Lul But for real now…does this give me in game clout? I’m proud of it.

[HollowChoir]

Its way more than floating around and getting hit. With that type of movement freedom all the the small ways you can outplay your opponent become unlimited. If they had this type of movement and iframes and no animation locks there would be larger gap between your average player a skilled one.

[WeGbored]

How many times will a genuine post turn into a “I miss Darkfall” post?

At least eleventy billion more times.

At least.

Tl/DR: I miss bunny hopping in Darkfall.

[laoi]

in what universe does this games clunky laggy melee combat remind you of darkfall? even mentioning darkfall in the same sentence as this pile of trash game is an insult to the greatest game ever made

[PhysOmega]

there is no commitment to an attack, which means no counterplay. This makes sense for FPS but not for fighting.

[laoi]

@WeGbored

Tl/DR: I miss bunny hopping in Darkfall.

who doesnt

[see_me_comin]

post 10, not one.

oh, and post EACH one, not just the ones where you fluke your way to the top because you were playing against bots.

it was 18 hours since the first request. are you only going to play one game every 3 days? or are you going to play 10 games a day and just post the one where youre on top?

this request should have been filled already.

[Wutever]

True, it would be worse. It would be Skyrim, but without mods.

[Dzty]

I don’t live on the forums sir. Sorry for the late reply. You see it as fluke but I don’t know. Doubling the second and third player seems a bit much for a fluke. Eden is amongst the two biggest servers on NA-East. These players from my experience are actually good. Look at their individual scores. And this happens on the regular believe that.