Sure do what makes you fun. I hope you have fun with your 2 runs.
It’s not hard to buy runs. On my server is 1.5k laz 1k gen big whoop. Can buy runs until WM capped or close then use your own orbs. Or just sell the orb runs and buy/craft more later. It’s not like you can only run them twice in a lifetime.
- prices will increase because the free ones from the quests will soon be gone
- how much money do you have? for maxing your WM on all slots you will for sure need more than 50 runs
- yeah starting crafting now. you can craft one per week
All those problems you mentioned are due to a shitty designed system
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- On my server the most people selling runs are crafting them. It’s often the same people or people from the same companies selling/buying runs constantly.
- Irrelevant. I can buy a run if I want to buy a run. First I’m not starting at 500 also, who says anyone is solely running Laz/Gen for WM increases? Who would only do that? o.O
- Thanks for the refresher course Captain Obvious.
the discussion is whether or not you should hold on the keys. please don’t use the “devs are idiots and I hate the game anyways” argument
hmm i don’t see any “i hate the game” argument but sure. Also that wasn’t an argument, just a fact xD About the actual holding keys, don’t forget you make ton of gold from each run, most times it can pay off the fee 
- people can’t sell runs constantly since even the biggest grinders have not crafted more than 10 keys so far because of the weekly cooldown. and they probably have used most of their keys so far.
- well you said “can buy runs till wm capped”. that makes me assume that you want to level your wm just by buying the runs.
- you said “craft” more later. using “more” makes me assume that you have no idea how hard to craft they are
low server you on then, my chat is constantly filled with laz runs
that’s my point. because ppl are selling them in chat, you guys think that your keys are on a much higher supply than they actually are. you should hold on the keys. those keys are your only access to the pve endgame.
jokes on you I’ve sold 3 laz orbs this week to the same group. My two free ones and one I made this week.
If people are selling them in chat, how are those 2 keys my only acess to pve endgame ??? If i feel like doing it i can just buy anytime. Those people selling are people actively crafting and selling everyweek. And they are many, so there’s always runs selling, at any time. At least on my server
because they are currently selling them in chat for that price. when the patch hits, everyone will want to run them for the gypsum. so the demand increases dramatically. and the supply decreases dramatically since the free ones will be gone soon.
if supply decreases, and demand increases … what is that telling you? only the riches one and the ones who craft one peer week themselves, will be able to run Lazarus
Yes you can “craft” “more” later you can craft one per week yourself. Now you may not plan to play another week, and you may play by yourself, but I will be “crafting” “more” later and “buying” “more” later. My friends will do the same, as it’s been already.
what is your point?
Well I guess you are either trolling or don’t know how to follow a conversation. Have a good night.
they are nerfing random WM bonus.
that means you have a limited amount of ways to raise wm per day, and expeditions are one of the best ways.
1 guaranteed bump for bosses, elite chests bumps, and the monsters in there have the highest chance of bumps (elites).plus gypsum for first attempt.
short version is person who does expeditions will cap WM faster. than person who doesnt.
and since wm will be heavily time gated, you are talking about spending an extra two weeks or more
Yeah… Infamy is GG too.
You can still use the genesis orbs for gypsum. Just dont use the Lazarus ones
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Thank you. I did run Lazarus a lot, i have most of the unique Lazarus drops on 598+ in my Storage.
Life staff - Yup its great, fully agree - a no brainer
Bow - well, it has minus 5 dex VS every other 600 bow, and you dont need critchance since headshots are always crit, and 300 dex means 1 crit every 10s, so you want enchanted/hs-dmg/critdmg - but its an okay 600 item tbh
Sword - hell no, our tanks are forging their own swords because everybody has a different playstyle
Great Axe - yes, out light armor rolling dd’s love it, gotta admit that, and weaponsmith pants are hard to come by to forge your own dream 600 axe
Rapier - trash sorry
Musket - nah, better take the one from garden, but even better then: craft your own one, same rules like bow
hatchet - really… no
Ice gauntlet - hell no, craft the 600’ one from arcana, super easy to get, dirt cheap, way better
as i said - 98% BiS items are only via crafting/random drop. With BiS i mean Optimized Max DPS, not “cool 600 item” - no offense at all! i have to explain this on stream a lot, but 99% of people fully agree since i always deep dive into games