Gypsum for Lazarus is a bait

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What if I want the timeless shards? You think about that? Just because you don’t want to run gen and laz before 600 expertise doesn’t mean someone else won’t have another reason to run them.

Friendly Reminder: Don’t listen to idiots and play the game the way you want to play it.

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i found best in slot weapons and armor from chest runs for myself and make a lot of profit also. there are different ways to get gear in this game. same goes for money.

there is everything for everyone, if you fallow just the road of a meta and you get dissapointed thats on you.

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Lazarus and Genesis are amazing ways to push your HWM with the new system. You get jewelery in your face all the time. We did run Lazarus within the first hour of the PTR, even with the new endboss mechanic, it was a super lootfestival that felt rewarding after every boss & chest, thanks to timeless shards (guaranteed loot from every boss) and guaranteed wm upgrades at every boss, even nearly every chest gave hwm upgrades and spit out jewelery…
The only really really really good thing that drops on both dungeons: Spear (Garden) and the Ring for Melees in Lazarus. Everything else, BiS is tied to crafting with random mods
which means: you need to run lazarus/genesis, to get shards on mass, to craft your BiS :slight_smile:

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I highly doubt that :smiley: You found best in slot gear from chests? With 3 good perks, the right attributes and 600 GS? We are running Myrk, Mines, Pirates and Eternal Pool with 20 ppl with high gearscore every evening and the entire group has 1-3 usable, not even close to BIS, gear from those runs.

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All the weapons are really really (maybe one really missing) good from Lazarus:

  • Life Staff 10/10
  • Bow 10/10
  • Sword 10/10
  • Great Axe 9/10
  • Rapier 9/10
  • Musket 7/10
  • Hatchet 6/10
  • Ice Gauntlet 6/10

Sure they are great ways to push your WM. Especially if you get infinite Keys on the PTR. Considering that most people just get the 2 free ones from the quests on the live server tho, they are just too valuable to use for Expertise/WM increasing.

I can see your point with the shards tho. But even with the Shards you wont be able to craft the Bow, Life Staff and Sword that drops from Lazarus. You had to be insanely lucky.

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Sure do what makes you fun. I hope you have fun with your 2 runs.

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It’s not hard to buy runs. On my server is 1.5k laz 1k gen big whoop. Can buy runs until WM capped or close then use your own orbs. Or just sell the orb runs and buy/craft more later. It’s not like you can only run them twice in a lifetime.

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  1. prices will increase because the free ones from the quests will soon be gone
  2. how much money do you have? for maxing your WM on all slots you will for sure need more than 50 runs
  3. yeah starting crafting now. you can craft one per week
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All those problems you mentioned are due to a shitty designed system

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  1. On my server the most people selling runs are crafting them. It’s often the same people or people from the same companies selling/buying runs constantly.
  2. Irrelevant. I can buy a run if I want to buy a run. First I’m not starting at 500 also, who says anyone is solely running Laz/Gen for WM increases? Who would only do that? o.O
  3. Thanks for the refresher course Captain Obvious.
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the discussion is whether or not you should hold on the keys. please don’t use the “devs are idiots and I hate the game anyways” argument

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hmm i don’t see any “i hate the game” argument but sure. Also that wasn’t an argument, just a fact xD About the actual holding keys, don’t forget you make ton of gold from each run, most times it can pay off the fee :wink:

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  1. people can’t sell runs constantly since even the biggest grinders have not crafted more than 10 keys so far because of the weekly cooldown. and they probably have used most of their keys so far.
  2. well you said “can buy runs till wm capped”. that makes me assume that you want to level your wm just by buying the runs.
  3. you said “craft” more later. using “more” makes me assume that you have no idea how hard to craft they are
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low server you on then, my chat is constantly filled with laz runs

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that’s my point. because ppl are selling them in chat, you guys think that your keys are on a much higher supply than they actually are. you should hold on the keys. those keys are your only access to the pve endgame.

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jokes on you I’ve sold 3 laz orbs this week to the same group. My two free ones and one I made this week.

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If people are selling them in chat, how are those 2 keys my only acess to pve endgame ??? If i feel like doing it i can just buy anytime. Those people selling are people actively crafting and selling everyweek. And they are many, so there’s always runs selling, at any time. At least on my server

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because they are currently selling them in chat for that price. when the patch hits, everyone will want to run them for the gypsum. so the demand increases dramatically. and the supply decreases dramatically since the free ones will be gone soon.

if supply decreases, and demand increases … what is that telling you? only the riches one and the ones who craft one peer week themselves, will be able to run Lazarus

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Yes you can “craft” “more” later you can craft one per week yourself. Now you may not plan to play another week, and you may play by yourself, but I will be “crafting” “more” later and “buying” “more” later. My friends will do the same, as it’s been already.

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what is your point?