Hatchet berserk + defy death

FS IG. and if you say ice shower, berserk gets them out of it.

you play medium?

Well. That’s not entirely true. What happened before was that you could pop berserk to get out of the root, but you would still be IN the ice shower, and you still can’t use stamina. You had to exit the ice shower, then use berserk to shake the slow off, but you still couldn’t use stamina. Now it’s not so bad because ice shower nerf, dodging while rooted and all that.

Anyway I’m assuming that you don’t use flamethrower because that would solve your issue.

Entomb gives you only 10% health back, and usually if you go inside of one everyone just gets in position to gank you on the way out. Reposte is great for staying alive and evading but you aren’t doing sustained dmg with reposte and being invulnerable for 4 seconds.

I don’t use flamethrower but if I did it just keeps you in place and they can attack you theough it for 4 seconds without fear of death.

FS/IG has the advantage over hatchet is pretty much every situation unless the hatchet user feral rushes you from behind. So this is honestly a get good scenario. Flamethrower hard counters hatchet users.

Well…you essentially are invulnerable to all damage for 2-4 seconds when riposting actually.

how about you try running away for 4 seconds and let your flame dots auto kill them after 4 second? Are you serious your just going to stand there and take a beating for 4 seconds?

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Literally all you’d need to do is apply a few stacks of burn after pricing defy death and roll away. They’ll just die.

@obadyahu yup :joy:

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I’d say it’s about 1.5 seconds. usually around the time you can attack after the animation you are vulnerable to damage.

I’m in medium armor there is no rolling away, and they can just roll if you roll and use feral rush and jump back on you.

Burn dots? that do a fraction of the dmg berserk health gives back?

fair enough. 2-3.5seconds

I’ve only seen someone die after they have procced defy death (if you just run away) is in a duel where they aren’t allowed to take potions and their berserk is on cooldown.

If they have berserk after it procs that’s another story. I mean honestly flamethrower is still enough to just dmg through the recovery tics and have them die instantly when defy deaths is over.

I used to be a rapier main, it’s 2 seconds at the most, if you are attacking you are vulnerable to damage. You can test this easily if you want.

medium armor mage without flamethrower. This whole chat is worthless. I even called you out earlier saying you were medium. What do you want to auto win against everything? You go medium mage if you want an advantage against other mages and ranged people, but at the same time you now allow melee to actually engage with you. Drawbacks to every build.

PS. Run Medium FS/Rapier and you will be able to dunk on the hatchet kids.

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yeah you’re right but it’s not like they are just standing around, im 205 con medium armor and they can kill me within those 4 seconds especially if im just standing their with my di… flamethrower in my hand and I don’t like using flamethrower anyway I think it’s skill-less.

2 seconds max while you’re standing in that pose. 1.5 seconds for the animation after someone procs you.

I just don’t think the two are comparable. There is some time of invulnerability but it’s not like defy death.

Rapier is a giant crutch and it got stealth buffed in the tempest patch and nobody seemed to care.

You used to be abled to attack them when the animation was over and they put there rapier down. This allowed for some outplay against rapier users, now they are invulnerable even during their recovery animation. The entire weapon is broken.