A good rapier user will evade cancel out of riposte to avoid that shit. Nevertheless, wp 
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It works with random player pressing a “Panic Riposte” lol with good ones, u triger it, or he instant evade after and u dont catch him.
A “good player” haha that’s a good one 
suggesting a good player uses this crutch. But to be fair I’ve had a player in the second round do riposte, then evade then fleche in a span of 3 seconds. I just leap strike after flèche and stay on their butt, after two of their 3 dodges I do wrecking ball and if they use their 3rd dodge then I get a free shockwave to clear out and light attack, if not then we go back to dancing with riposte
It’s all in how you play it. Grace tree is a huge crutch for most of the people that use it, but one could also argue that a tower shield can be used as a crutch as well(only in duels really) if you “turtle up”.
Imma say though. That was some satisfying timing lol
Yea I’ve seen the turtle people 
just as annoying as someone running the entire time cause you know they aren’t going to win but you don’t wanna deal with them either.
A good rapier user will wait until you use a skill to use riposte since most skills put you in an animation long enough to be hit. Or they will just evade cancel the end to not be caught off guard. A lot of them dont even use it anyways and opt for FnF instead. Its ridiculously easy to avoid riposte anyway even if you do accidentally proc it. The animation itself is long enough to reactively dodge or even block to prevent the stun at least. Another thing you can do is wind up a charged heavy attack since it will force a dodge or they will eat a hit.
The video, while showing great timing of landing a counter stun at the earliest possible moment was only against players who crutch on graces survivability and arent really even good at that to begin with. Still enjoyable to see someone destroy mindless panic riposte users. They make the rest of the actual rapier mains look bad.
a good rapier user, won’t use riposte.
A good rapier user wouldnt wait till I use a skill since I’m just auto attacking them until they use it, a “good” rapier user would be dead if they waited till then on me 
but if I know they haven’t used riposte yet I bait it out till they do, if they use a skill in the mean time like bleeds or flurry then they get the bash during that. Or just block any bleeds and block the finish
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it not like they would just stand there either. They would light attack/dodge/use other rapier/weapon skills as well until a skill is used that can be riposted. Its part of the rapiers kit to poke and dodge attacks until an opening can be exploited or a skill can be riposted. If you only block/auto then they will just kite you until you decide to actually engage. (Honestly though if someone uses flurry in pvp then they deserve to get bashed that skill is so trash in pvp.)
Sorry meant to reply but didnt know how to add after the fact
Maybe it’s cause I’m S&S but I’ve never met a rapier user that uses it as a weapon and thought I’m in trouble, without bleeds the skills are bad and it doesn’t do much to my stamina and everyone has pierce resist so the autos are bad, if they aren’t using riposte then I get two chances to bash them, either hitting them with shield rush first into bash or the bash itself. If they are meleeing a melee they are gonna have a bad time and it seems to always result in that
Tell me you’ve never been in a war without telling me you’ve never been in a war
I can definitely understand it if you are using tower shield as SnS. Not to mention that SnS is one of the harder melees for a rapier user to work around with its block. I know a lot of schitzo sns users only use round which is easier to get around with its lower stability.
Oh sorry 
didn’t know meta followers are good players
A good rapier user will take you down in that case. His AA damage will be higher, and he still gets to use evade to buff damage, while you can’t afford to pop skills while his riposte is ready 
If he uses another skill or heavy attack I just use bash in the damage part of heavy or a skill 
unfortunately rapier doesn’t have much stamina damage or anything that can’t be blocked, all the skills on rapier require that the target isn’t blocking and if I got 3 stacks of bleed On me for whatever reason I just block till I see the finish skill go off
Why would he use heavies or skills beside evade, though. His light spam with perked evade (no safe openings for shield bash) against your light spam will see him on top, and if you pop anything that can’t be riposted such as berserk/defiant/etc, he will break distance with fleche and rolls and sit that out. In practice this might play out differently due to player skill, CDs not being up, etc. But on paper, if you can’t feign out the riposte, you lose. Having riposte UP is often a lot better than having it ON because it’s just so damn threatening. Trust me, I did this for 200+ pvp ranks
Yea I’m still confused cause besides “finish” rapier tickles me when I have max fortify at all times from shield blocks and with pierce resist like most people.
Better cap that fortify quick if you’re ticklish I guess 
It feels nice to catch bad timed riposte users on the ending frame.
What others are pointing out is, an advanced rapier mechanical player uses riposte after you’ve committed a melee attack, or evades directly after it ends, not throwing riposte out willy nilly or standing there like an idle duck, deserving to be punished for a misplay
Looking forward to next patch when Riposte doesn’t grant immunity or grit after its triggered. So much counter play incoming!
Oh lord I’m gonna be wet after that patch, can set it off with light attack and then just bash right after.