I thought ptr was to learn about things you can exploit when it goes live before anyone else does.
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Even if I did have the ability to import a current live character, there’s no reason for me to play on PTR.
Changes and fixes will make their way to live eventually, or, they won’t - I’ll adjust my play according to those results.
You lie even in the name of this topic. Its hard to take you seriously, sorry OP.
Also saying that historically all PTR feedback has been ignored … I don’t know man, it shows you lack any knowledge or just ignore it to fit your narrative about big ignorant AGS …
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100% agreed
Azoth bug day 1 gg no re
But they should! I mean if you import one character you can still creade a second fresh one for that right? What OP means is, if we can import, ppl that want to test the end game will join, if they dont, that leaves only the ones wiling to play fresh and sink in a few hours for no reward. Enabling character import is a win win scenario!
I don’t think you were here for beta and day 1 live. If you were, you would not be singing the same tune.
Is 600 not less than 1000 where you went to school?
the OP was 100 but they changed it to read 1,000
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I think you simply misread the title…
tricky
It’s their spotty history of response. Awhile ago Zin made a fantastic reply that outlines everything I wanted from interactions down from the mod team. Same thread, Shadow Fox just posted the regurgitated ‘nice thread, will pass’ post and it was such a polarizing contrast. Less than calling anyone down, I’d just like to outline that Zin laid out pretty much everything that could be said and needed to be… I think if we had that communication from the devs too, we could provide better feedback. Cut to the chase, drop issues they won’t or can’t get. You know, just optimizing our process on both sides.
If we could get everyone on the team to value communication like Zin did in that thread, we’d have much less trouble I think.
Funny that I’ve been playing MMO for at least 17 years and I’ve never had to go test stuff (work for) devs for free before. Usually the game already comes tested and with a few bugs only (which is normal).
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Just like in my other post, I agree with nearly everything here. AGS should, and frankly needs, to make the PTR process much more inviting.
Although PTR’s now are much better at giving you what you want/need then before, being able to import your character or even just having access to a handful of console commands would go a long way for making testing more enjoyable. If they really want to bring people in for testing there should probably be some sort of in-game incentive such as granting testers new/existing cosmetics/emotes or even gear packs like they did leading up to the launch of arenas with Twitch drops.
However, my biggest gripe is easily the lack of acknowledgement/communication by developers towards the problems reported. Spending a few hours on a bug report just for the issues to be publicly ignored, even if those issues were actually documented and prioritized internally, is a huge morale blow to testers. Especially if those same issues make it into the live launch. Simply a “we heard you and are working on x problems” post would help out a lot.
I still personally encourage those who are able and have time to spend a little bit testing on the PTR, even if it’s only 30 minutes a cycle, but I definitely understand the reasons people don’t.
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It’s just at the point where we’ve had this discussion like a half dozen times to the same conclusion every time: AGS is just shit at communicating and we expect more.
The only remaining question is why. They’ve yet to deliver even a single time on those expectations, and they’ve proven time and time again that they’ll take the shortcut if they think it’ll ditch us. If the effort is there, it reads poorly… we don’t feel it being given, and AGS seems content to leave that. Once in a while we hear ‘oh well, you see we hear you so we’re working on it,’ but honey I asked you to work on cheating on me before we started dating. A year into the relationship, you’re just fucking up.
(I mean so am I for being in the relationship but two wrongs…)
Maybe your expectations are wrong?
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Boys we have to understand these folks work for Amazon.
So, they are beholden to all kinds of bullshit we dont necessarily see.
To be honest the level of communication Ive witnessed, as someone who has played PvP mmos primarily since trammel / fellucia split UO days, is pretty good. And it makes sense that they would want to let all the bugs “load up” for a week or two or even three before diving into fixing those issues. Until then, they are likely working on other things driving income for the business, since that is always a company’s primary goal. This is not inherently a nefarious aspect, but it does drive this sort of development scheduling behavior.
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I do end the post saying that.
where?
im not seeing it.
Yeah importing our own characters AND having the option to create one of their RNG characters would be a big step in the right direction.
I play most of the PTR’s but I usually cant find anyone to duel or any OPR to test out the pvp in so I just log off again because its boring.
If people could import their own character I think a ton more people would actually play PTR
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