Thanks amazon. I will delete game from my computer and QUIT.
Completely agree. The devs clearly want the housing system to be a form of sunk cost fallacy asset tie to the game intended to keep players running on the mouse wheel game play loops to afford the every five day payments (now weekly). The large upfront prices are the sunk costs.
It is by design and while somewhat effective when in moderation for a game NW completely over did it so much in its blatant disregard for a players willingness to grind the game as a job to afford it.
I tried to warn players in my company that initially saving for the 20k homes for the initial first buyer discount was a mistake due to the onerous ball and chain taxes that come with them. Eventually I upgraded my 5k home to have a 20k and 15k home and the 5k but it was at a more gradual pace when I could afford the payments when I was playing actively. I still found them to be untenable for the masses though and even myself when my logged hours would slow in game.
Main problem is the housing system promotes casual players to quit the game or become somewhat sweaty and make the payments. I think the housing system has in reality cost NW more players then the sunk cost has helped to retain due to how large of a money pit they are over time.
Work hard to afford the house or lose the house benefits. Crap design for a game that needs some casual friendly systems to maintain an active player base. It also works against the idea of trying to encourage players to return. Once you free yourself from the ball and chain you don’t want to go back.
I had a 20k, 15k, and 5k home. Even ifbI returned to the game casually I wouldn’t want to grind the payments. So I could downgrade to three 5k homes, but the game would force me to abandon my investment (20k + 15k) in my two larger properties with no return, and then drop 10k more to purchase new properties. It would be a 45k asset value loss in total. I agree with others who have suggested you should be able to sell back your properties when you wish to. The money doesn’t derive from the settlement owners so it should work that way.
You have to really enjoy a game to put up with systems like this that demand so much of your time for so little gain.
I mean why did you buy a t4 house if you’re not wanting to pay that kind of price, granted it’s a bit high. Another question would be where did you buy it? If it’s in one of the major cities? If so that probably why it’s high drop the house call it a loss and buy a t4 in a less desirable settlement they usually have really low taxes. Literally just got done abandoning my 10k house because of this. Better to buy to shit shacks and one really good house for storage.
Hello Zelme. Casual player here. I rarely post, so taking the time to post this means the issue of housing taxes is particulary annoying to me (and others as well apparently).
I bought my houses after the tax reduction, so I never saw how bad it could be. I knew the taxes were supposed to go back up at some point, but holy crap, didn’t think it would be so bad. I know, my bad for not researching more, but don’t you think that it is very much on the crazy side to expect players to pay that EVERY WEEK?
In the MMO’s I’ve played before, owning a house is a fun perk, not a chore.
I’d love to own a bigger house for decorating, but there’s no way I’m doing that at the current tax rates.
When do I get my W2 so I can file my tax return with the 3 different settlements I own houses in? With all my deductions and being over taxed, I am definitely owed money. Yes, I want this to come right out of the territory owning companies pocket too.
Those of us that can read understood you sir, stop feeding the trolls and mentally inept
Unsure if your response to my post above yours. In my case I bought the 15k home in EV and a 20k home in WW when I was at my peak and logging a lot of hours in game. I like others found the end game loops lacking after putting 1k hours in. Only wanted to play casually at that point to wait on updates. The game wasn’t worth putting in the time to make the payments.
In fairness, 2k isn’t a lot for players who can put in time and effort. However, for casual players, gold incoming is idiocy. I spend fourteen hours a day and I have little to no money to show for it.
I don’t get the magical 10-20k drops for finding rare items. I’m in no position to have items drop from mutated dungeons, because my gear isn’t dropping those level items.
All I seem to do - is spend spend spend, for items out of my reach because those with money, charge prices above and beyond what they should be.
Housing tax is ok for a money sink Devs, but your little bags of juniper berries, are like giving infants money for candy, but those kids, goto the shop, only to find, they can’t actually afford to buy anything.
Find me one place in the world where 2 months taxes i equivalent to the price ouf the house…
It’s much worst than IRL
I’m not defending housing taxes in New World. Yes, they’re too dang high. I was just commenting about property taxes being a sort of rent in real life.
FFS I have mortage payments in RL to pay… Why would I want to do it in a game that is supposed to be fun
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What you doing today ? Well you know, grinding just to make my weekly payments so I can use my storage, trophies and porting that i already grinded for…
Companies already make more than enough coin from crafting and refining fees…
I think apart from everything else the amount of taxes should depend on how well the town is maintained.
It’s actually astonishing to me these guys got on the dev update and said this would be a happy medium. Did they think people were running 20% tax rate before the holiday reduction? No, most companies were running between 8-10% before the holiday reduction and maxed it after AGS started printing gold. This has resulted in the taxes being exactly the same as before, and allowing companies to tax up to 2,000 a week per T4 house. Do they think that is fun gameplay to be taxed up to 6,000 a week to keep your houses that you can’t sell or get rid of? I am starting to think that the people in charge don’t play the game at all.
Bump This topic needs to be addressed because some companies are doing this just to troll people. They are very toxic and some really shady dealings behind the scenes.
Some of these purple regions are owned by sub companies of the main company that came to troll from another server.
I love how people online complain about taxes in a game, but has the exact demographic that votes for high taxes in real life.
I vote for high taxes for the insanely rich in real life to make the rich a less insanely rich. In New World… I stopped paying taxes because it makes me poor. Thats a big difference
To me the problem is not that Companies/Carpetbagging low-lifes can set taxes as high as they like - the problem is that the person who laid out cash for a house in that town cannot vote with her/his feet. You can’t sell the house - therefore you don’t own it and the AGS “buy a house… buy THREE!” is a big fat lie.
There will be no balance because AGS is currently treating renters as serfs. Don’t blame the carpetbaggers for being low-life scumbags - it’s their nature - blame AGS.
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PS - The AGS “Make Good” is another lie. It was a “make the rich richer and kick the serfs in the face.” At least that was the effect, regardless of good intentions.
So, art imitating life? Stop paying your property taxes and you’ll eventually find yourself kicked out of your home… as though you were renting it.
Agreed the rent is too damn high. But, the sky is falling, so I’m not sure it matters.
We should be able to sell the property. In real life the property value goes up over time offsetting the repayments/tax
That is a catch 22, they use the taxes to the stations in the town. I think they should use the boards to maintain them, as in, you want a better leather working station, we need X people to do X town board quests by the end of the week… It gets people town rep, gives better incentive to do board quests and Companies don’t get to rob us just to fund their PvP gear.
Or, drop the maintenance cost of towns drastically, so that rent can stay low. I would have thought the second one is a no brainer, but even when they dropped the tax down they still just gave Companies X times what we paid them, so they still got rich off it.
