How to play with a real tank

[Kusanagi]

This made me laugh. This is also the reason I run sword/board and hatchet.

[HarshHash]

I’m pretty confident you’re a shit or at least an inefficient tank. There’s no reason for you to be tanking with 200+ Con What do you need so much health for?? Are you that bad you can’t survive without 15k hp?

[Isdren]

i absolute totally dont agree with you.

200 CON. Thats the way togo. no point more no point less.
If you need a HP bumb → take Consti Bufffood. But if you are a half decend player you will not need it.

Second for your “Guide” here is a little hint:
You DONT need “Defiant Stance” it is useless in PvE AND PvP.
Take a Hatchet as your second weapon while tanking group contend. Switch to Hatchet → berserk for AoE Taunt → switch back to S&S.
WAY better then WH or GA.

Third:
DONT fucking skill the “Defender” tree. There are only a handfull important Notes in that tree: “Sturdy Shield, Sturdy Grid, Elemental Resistance, Recuperation and Shield Bash.” everything else is useless. Shield Rush is half decend and Final Blow works as a filler note to get to Recuperation.
Go into the Swordmaster tree and get the Elite Perk “Leadership”
It is WAY WAY stronger for your group then anything else you can do.

But you are right. You dont need to stand inside the heal circel if you are not below 50% HP.

[Recksters]

My goodness, the mansplaining is in full swing here. A tank with DPS, blablabla

PVE this, PVP that, buzz off.

With the best config, in your mind, a player can be great or very bad, if he can’t play.

And with the worst config, in your mind, a player can be great or very bad too.

You guys like a tank that holds aggro and you stay in between the tank and the boss, getting hit by the boss nonetheless. #Slowclap

You guys complain if the tank doesn’t hold aggro while you still carry your weapon with carnelian in it. #Slowclap

Anyway, we are far from a constructive discussion now, you frigging trolls.

[jc972.999]

Yeah, I corrected myself somewhere on this thread. Forgive me the 90s were and are kinda blurry and seem so long ago.

[Damon]

What? There’s plenty of constructive commentary you just don’t happen to agree with it.

Also mansplaining? How is gender relevant in an anonymous forum post?

[oltorf.jc]

I will start by saying I agree with some of what you are saying. So many players are just cluelesss and running about.

Here is some feedback. (I Tank and DPS depending what is needed)

1. Melee when attacking behind end up attacking through the boss because the game is not perfect. This ends up in a melee dps with their back to the boss an dbetween the tank and the boss. I save dodges to get out of the way just for this.

2. Ideal is 2 ranged and 1 melee. Particularly useful if there is ever need for an off tank. Also, melee dps iss the best damag ein the game by far.

3. Tanks need more good aoe, I use a life staff with strength on it just so I get that first bit of agro from buffs or heals. (If I am pure tanking anyway)

[Recksters]

In retrospect, after many weeks of playing, I gotta say: It’s possible to play a real tank!

If the players know how to play with a tank. So, the tank gotta tell them: “If you attack something before I do, deal with it, I won’t and sit on the floor watching.”

Most range players attack as soon as they see something. Then cry the tank is not doing his job if they die cuz they have aggro on them. Taunt is 8 metres around the player, not 120.

So, at the beginning of an expedition I write exactly that: “If you attack before I do, deal with the aggro and I’ll sit on the floor.”

Level 66 elites in Malevolence, no problem, I barely have to dodge. Winter Warrior, Thorpe in Depths, Zhou in Dynasty, I stick myself to a wall and sleep on the keyboard almost.

As long as the healer heals the tank, not the idiots that decided they can handle aggro, easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

I’m even playing 50% Str/50% Con for kicks. Less HP cuz I hope I get a fairly ok healer in the group.

And GreatAxe. Taunt and Maelstrom are just perfect together, then Gravity well on the bunch and the group is there for the picking by the DPS.

S&S is not weak. Sword DPS is not to be shy about. It’s almost like a small very fast AOE attack. Even the heavy attack is faster. DPH wise a WH is stronger, but DPS wise, not so sure. Cuz it’s super quick to swing and turn at the same time, attack more mobs in a second than with a GA or WH.

In short, the sequence is this:

I go forward and aggro everything. When I start attacking+Defiant Stance, then the group comes join the party. Wambam, g’night m’mam.

To keep the aggro, it depends if they are mobs that attack often or not. If they do, I cannot lose the aggro. If they do not, I have to attack a bit to make sure to keep it.

Reck