Haven’t tested, but I’m leaning towards yes, since vicious and enchanted stack now…
I wonder if he knows homie was a clown who beat people with a sock.
Doubtful based on the fact they act like twelve year olds.
Always stacked, only takeaway from this post is your comprehensive testing failed.
Just an idea, it is possible that game is not that balanced?
I had 3 other people testing it as well, and all of us came to the same conclusions. So, I will have to disagree.
Not quite journal articles but you get the point.
Regardless of when it came in, it’s not a big deal, sword damage isn’t what’s holding it back from being used more in PvP for DMG, it’s crappy weapon perks on gear and less utility compared to GA/Hammer/Void/IG.
Thank you for responding coherently and rationally. I know personally that communication via media like this can be distorted.
My understanding from everyone I ever asked is that in the past they did not stack. That’s certainly far from hard evidence. However, it does provide anecdotal evidence.
I may try this myself with other weapons to help determine loadouts and the like.
If you have the shield and sword aktiv in your hand the should stack, why not ? Its normal, if you use the other habd you just get the sword perks and not the shield.
So it should work, i test it now ![]()
This won’t apply to other weapons. If you use a weapon other than a sword, then you won’t get any benefits from your shield whatsoever. This issue is just about shield and sword perks stacking.
When you’re using two other weapons, like a great axe and warhammer at the same time, for example, only the weapon you’re currently wielding at that moment will have its perks applied to you. The secondary weapon you’re using (and not wielding), will not have any perks applied to you, only its attributes (str, con, etc.)
FWIW I haven’t been playing the game recently but I tested this over a month ago and the perks did stack as long as they were different. The easiest to test this on was with something like keenly empowered on sword and keenly jagged on shield. You can clearly see that when you crit you both get the empowered buff and the enemy takes bleed damage.
I think it always worked this way, unless they changed it since I played.
This is not what I’m talking about. The term “stacking” usually implies the same perk. If you’re talking about different perks, they don’t need to stack because they are different. I’m talking about the same perks now stack. Enchanted on shield and enchanted on sword, for example. Same perks did not stack previously, but now they do on shield/sword.
Ah yes, those do NOT stack. I misunderstood this:
which can’t go on a single crafted weapon. You do get 6 perks rather than 3 which allows you to get combinations that would otherwise be impossible.
Yep. And now, you can have enchanted on sword and enchanted on shield, and both enchanted’s stack! So find the 3 best perks and use the same perks on both shield and sword.
Now it was my understanding that Keen on a shield only applied to attacks with the shield. Is that correct as far as we know?
Now it was my understanding that Keen on a shield only applied to attacks with the shield. Is that correct as far as we know?
Yes that’s correct. Keen doesn’t stack with itself, and Keenly Empowered doesn’t stack with itself. Example: sword has keen and shield has keen (does not stack to give you double keen.) Same goes for keenly empowered (does not stack to give you double keenly empowered)
One last question if you don’t mind.
A shield has Keen. The sword does not have Keen. Will the sword benefit from the Keen on the shield?
I had to test this, but yes. Perks on your sword will apply to your shield attacks, and perks on your shield will apply to your sword attacks.
Huh. That’s an interesting addition to the discussion.
Thanks for testing that out for us.
I tested having sturdy on both my sword and shield last week and it did not stack. Took the same amount of stamina damage with 1 sturdy perk as with 2.