I believe Magnum Menagerie In Nidaveeler abused a exploit to Change their siege time

Still admitting to mass reporting. If someone is insulting you just report them yourself, block them, and move on. Don’t bring in as many people as you can to try and get them banned. Attempting to get others to ban is the literal definition of mass reporting. It’s pathetic and childish. What I’m reading is “Waaah someone was mean to me on the internet I’m gonna get them banned because they hurt my feely weelies”

The mass reporting issue had nothing to do with lots of people target reporting players who had done something wrong….

It had to do with people mass reporting people who did not do things wrong to get them banned for no valid reason. This was according to a patch a while back adjusted/fixed and that image you keep sending was after they had released that patch.

It’s also important to note that since I blocked him I did not do anything more than report him personally for harassing me, my members, and it seems like he has continued to do so since people have told me that they have received direct messages and he has demanded our company with more lies and harassed us.

The funny thing is I was also told he said he was banned which is actually hilarious since that just represents that other people without my insurrection, reported him on his own for harassing others, making up complete lies to try and discredit others, and spamming chat. This just indicates that Amazon did look into his profile and saw the harassment and took action which I think is something we can all agree on is a good thing.

Also the image you keep sending if you took a second literally indicates that I would ask (not require) and for other cases were people have harassed and said racist or sexist remarks to company members than all I would do is post the proof in our discord because that is not ok. Your accusation of us abusing the report button to punish someone who has done something wrong makes little to know sense.

Now this is way off topic and has nothing to do with the bug or exploit that your company participated in which there is clear proof. It says in the TOS and report function on the forums to relate to the topic so drop it

You gonna mass report me on the forums too? Go for it

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Personally that is all I have done. But there are instances of such behaviour that are very likely bordering or blatantly against the law (at least in my state).

People should not use direct messages as a means to harass individuals hoping to do so without repercussions. If anything, there should be much stricter enforcement in such cases.

Obviously ppl shouldn’t go overboard on this, but mass reporting people who are very likely commiting a crime shouldn’t really be something up for debate.

Also you clearly did not read what I said. I said I would ask if he continued and when Amazon explained that mass reporting was an issue they indicated it was for reporting someone not related to a violation of their terms of service. In their terms of service harassment and defamation falls under their code of conduct category which is a clear indication that nothing was done wrong. Keep repeating more lies as if reporting someone for doing something wrong is not ok somehow :rofl:

And if you continue to message my members and harass them in game that is not ok and you will be reported.

Give me proof of me messaging them and harassing them, the only CC member besides Crichton I have talked to is you. I’ve openly stated I don’t like CC, but I have also stated that not everyone from CC is bad. I give people a shot before I judge them and so far I’ve really only judged you lmao. There is a possibility I may have messaged someone while doing a little bit of shitposting but I don’t necessarily recall doing it so if there is proof please show me and I will apologize accordingly. Where’s my stimmy btw?

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You are not intended to be able to push influence at all while an invasion is pending. This is confirmed through support and listed IN GAME at your faction representative. You were also given the forum post in the dms listed above.

I agree the faction guy says that, but the latest patch change made it so if a territory were in conflict it would stay that way after an invasion.

Granted, the exact text of the patch notes does not imply influence should go up in this state, but it also would be a very weird thing to put into such a limited patch - to only address the condition during a 10 minute window every 3 or 4 days when an invasion became imminent and a territory was in conflict and not yet declared.

In any event it did go up as WW was at 90% or so when invasion became imminent- so there is obviously a bug either in the mechanic or with the tooltip text now.

Edit: there was an awful lot of purple running pvp missions from every company and I don’t think very many of them even noticed this (or even understand the mechanic).

I also don’t know if the seige timer was changed which triggered the upcomming invasion. If that was done, it could be that influence still goes up until the point it would have triggered with the old siege time.

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Going back to the main topic… There seems to be a misunderstanding of the difference between a bug and an exploit. They are very different as a bug is something that is not intended within the game. Could this be a bug? Who knows as AGS can only decide that.
An exploit is intentionally abusing a known bug for one’s benefit. So first the bug has to be known, which there has been no confirmation of if this is even a confirmed bug. So going on the premise that a bug was intentionally exploited to change the times is already invalid as:

  1. Its not a confirmed bug
  2. The game allowed it to be changed for whatever reason
  3. Clear confusion of why both wars weren’t at 8pm even after the change as can be seen in the VOD through chat and voice.

First time this has occurred due to the lack of prior evidence this is even possible, so to instantly claim it is an exploit rather than a bug seems more of a stretch due to inconvenience. It’s not like this only affects you, we also have to find members for the wars regardless of the time period, we are coordinating within the faction to figure it out regardless.

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I think your missing the point. We did our work before the invasion which is not against the rules. If it worked as intended and stopped progress we would be more than happy to push it into conflict after the invasion. However, if other people or even my people under no direction did PVP missions for tokens, for fun, or for whatever reason that should not erase the legitimate work companies did before that point.

Also you act like you did not declare on our territories if an area was pushed with an invasion but it literally does not even let you (prior to this patch) that was the bug fix.

Native, even your boy up above that is on your side admitted that the Conflict work wasn’t completed before the invasion. Even your own people aren’t supporting your claims. Windsward was in conflict before the invasion started, and Weavers was absolutely not either.

And we act like we did not declare on your territories because… uh… we didn’t. We all had the option, but as you and I discussed in Discord (where stuff like this should have stayed, btw), our entire Faction agreed to not exploit the fact that influence can, and was, pushed by people that didn’t know better.

You can’t say the same, and your buddy up above supports our claim that you pushed it during a time the game says you shouldn’t be able to, and the support rep confirmed as a bug. Something that you know, because I showed it to you, prior.

Moving the goalpost isn’t going to work in this conversation either. SIIA, and frankly everyone else, has you and your claim dead to rights bud. You have absolutely no ground to stand on. The siege time is not a confirmed bug, you saw me be as confused as everyone else in the server about it, and that I had no prior knowledge of any bug in regards to siege time.

You, however, did have prior knowledge about pushing influence during an invasion. All you have done here is out yourself for your behavior and given everyone else an opportunity to publicly show what we have all been trying to address with you privately. You and yours are literally the only people on the server that can’t get along with anyone else.

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I said purple pushed it after the 90%, I did not say “we” pushed it. I believe the vast majority of our guild went off and did other things figuring we wouldn’t be able to declare.

And, for the record, we couldn’t declare even if we had wanted to. You can’t declare two wars at the same time (or at least two wars against the same company) and we had already declared on WF.

You mass reported when you knew it would get people banned. that’s an exploit right?
I got my ban BEFORE amazon fixed it.

What did i say to you that was abuse or harassment? I was banned before that screenshot and told from someone In your Company that you asked for reports. That screenshot is just proof that that is something you do.

Prior to my 24 hour ban my ONLY mention of Crimson was in my faction messages where i said
“Former Crimson Court Member” and “candidate endorsed by Crimson Court” is that harassment or abuse?

If you look in the above screenshots i posted a member of your company who said he talked to native about the threat literally said if native reported me in regards to that threat, that it was most likely abuse of the report function.

See your at it again. Making up more lies and bringing the harassment to the forums. It would be abuse of the report function if it was unmerited & just because he is a ‘member of my company’ does not mean he fully comprehends the situation of your direct message harassing’s my company members, making up blatant lies about my company not paying taxes (when we just lost an invasion) and making derogatory remarks towards me.

And more importantly that message was sent after instant bans for mass reporting had already been stopped so you did get banned because you did do something wrong. Learn from it and move on.

Prior to my ban I had NEVER messaged a CC member and prior to that screenshot I hadn’t either. All my talks with your members who as you can see agree with me, were after you threatened me.

Dude they are right you cant read, I got banned BEFORE they fixed it. Way BEFORE that screenshot.

Back to the issue of bugs (or perceived bugs). Can we at least all agree that there is at least 1 for certain bug with the GUI?

The map screen shows the two wars at the same time, where-as the city screen shows them going to happen at different times.

I will try and submit that bug in a different post as it will be completely missed by the CMs. Unless they are /popcorning this thread.

This appears to be causing other issues, like some people not being able to sign up for two wars (ones not at the same time) but the system sometimes telling them they are at the same time. But trying again works. Like the system isn’t even sure when they will occur.

Yes, we fully acknowledge that something is incorrect. As I said above, we feel the wars should both be at 8, per what was set. Our issue is with Native baselessly accusing a player of exploiting and calling for punishment.

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