I have never seen any other game like this one which hates one specific class to this extent and do it on purpose

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mages. yes i’m talking about mages.

now think about all the contents in the game. mage has handicap in every single one of them.

i used to play since the beginning, it first hit me when tanks bruisers and healers were just chilling with voidbent set(void set is OP AF during the beginning, think about it) and everything meanwhile we mages had nothing

then it hit me second time when i realize there is literally not even 1 single good int-con accessory for mages whatsoever meanwhile ALL OTHER classes have BIS or close to BIS ones. especially str users but not limited to because there are also perfect focus-dex accessories right now. so you could have your almost bis set during the first time of the game with dungeon drops + void set meanwhile we mages were wandering around faction gear and stuff. it still same to this day btw. in fact str users even have true BIS helmet from tempest. raiders helmet, check it out (this is all about pvp)

over time, there was a magical time where fire-ice was doing fine. it was actually really strong. good times right? guess what, we got gutted like there is no tomorrow and it happened fast. we were gutted so hard that since that day fire staff didnt even see the sunlight ever again during wars. to this say still in dry tree server no guild ever accepts any fire staff to war rosters. it’s THAT bad. doesnt matter what item you have or how BIS your set 's. even the minor weird buffs didnt matter at all

now we are stuck with only void ice which doesnt even really give the mage vibe. due to nature of those weapons you have to play very close, almost like a melee so you can do something. like, no one actually spams ranged attacks from far away. imagine a mage class in a game where you better not play ranged. why? because butthurt director dont like getting attacked from range so even a mage better should play close so that he can reach them if he wants to. idk i cant think of any other reason. muskets bows are meme anyway so they dont matter.

like these all not enough, now every week im like ok lets see how deep im gonna get fucked by mutations because obviously the whole mutation concept works against only mages, its fire or void mutations, and corrupt mobs already resist ice. a mage has 3 weapons and all 3 of them are straight up countered almost always(i almost cried when we had a week where genesis didnt have fire resistance. i felt like a regular player for 1 week. it was amazing). yes you can change to something else and play but thats not the point. my point is why the fuck mage always has the short stick? why? what do you want from us? do those mutations ever come as slash mutation or something like they are super resistant to void or fire? no? guess why?
you think im done? hell no, did you know elemental aversion ALSO decrease skill dmg? and that bug is around for so long. imagine phys aversion also decrease melee dps dmg, you know what would happen? that bug wouldnt see the sunlight next day. but when its mage, fuck it, who cares right? let the mages suffer.

seriously, who the fuck ever the director is, ok i get it you play ga/wh, but do you have to let it effect your whole development process this much? wtf is this hate? did you lose your every single duel so that you hated it so much or what? whats your deal man? what do you want from mages? whats your problem with fire staff? i can barely hit anyone with fire staff only if i go full int or something and full bis items, otherwise its completely trash and even then it doesnt worth at all.

i rarely talk about balance stuff, its mmorpg shit happens but TO THIS EXTENT, i just dont get it. the game is bullying the class on purpose on every single chance that it has. mages are handicapped in all pvp and pve aspects. like, the most classical and signature skill meteor which is pretty much the most threatening skill in almost all mmorpgs for mages, in new world meteor is a fucking meme. i cant even comprehend the thought process behind this.

what the fuck is your deal with fire mages???

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You mean the ones who end up in the top of war leaderboards?

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You mean the ones who end up in the top of OPR leaderboards ?

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Yea buff mages, Now I will 2 shot glass canon musket/ bow not 4 shots good idea 4k crit from fire ball is not enough xd If u think there is no good items for mages check drop list again xd

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why you parrot the comment above? and yes i mean top of opr leaderboards. because no one cares opr leaderboards anyway, they dont matter at all. and even then fire staff is nothing but stat padding. i can dps a healer all day and look like no 1 because of dmg without any kill or assist.

opr scoreboards cant even be any argument to that huge wall of text which complains about every content in the game and you talk about opr score board

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If u wanna be a mage with high k/d stat dont play FS, FS is more support weapon for melees. Mages have good weapons VG and IG to smash enemies.

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Past tense.
Tempest is full of great Int gear.
Literally full of it. Plus Dynasty has a nasty IG, and Laz has a cracked Fire staff (plus tempest does too i think). Also an insane VG in Tempest.

If we’re talking about a shunned class for gear, it’s actually healer. (PS im only talking about gear in my post)

Healers have:

  • 1 bis weapon = Will of the Ancients
  • 1 bis pants = Sagacious pants (new)
  • 1 okay earring = Misty Kismet (most healers want healthy toast instead)
  • 1 bis amulet = Keepers Pendant (new)

Meanwhile to craft bis rings, we need the Sacred mod. This mod costs roughly 20k each, and there’s usually only several on the TP at any given time. Only has one drop location (low rank dungeon) and super rare. Meanwhile the actual BIS rings sell for 2million gold.

A majority of all ‘healer’ gear are mixed stats and despite being a large chunk of the playerbase, has the least amount of gear available on the TP (super low drop chances for anything usable, especially light gear and least profitable to craft).

Oh yeah and we only have 1 weapon that scales off Focus as a true healer weapon. VG literally doesn’t count.

I understand your frustrations and I really do hope they add more mage gear, weapons, and jewelry. But below mages are healers. We healers don’t have it easy either.
The pattern though? All magical weapons/gear in this game are HEAVILY neglected by the devs. And it sucks, I fully agree.

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I guess you didn’t try to play healer.

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You forgot about BIS ring with critical rate + void damage

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It almost feels like New World was made by someone or a group that wasn’t good at another MMO and wanted to rectify it in their own. Vote with your login.
As in, don’t.

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Completely agree. The developers hurt mages and buff their favoured GA users with nearly every patch. The final straw for me was them FINALLY bringing out some decent drops for mages with the Tempest update and then almost immediately nerfing the mage weapons I spent dozens of hours grinding and upgraded with tens of thousands of umbral shards to the point where they were worse than the weapons I already had (Firevine Battlestaff and Taiyang’s Heart).

The developers have received feedback about this ad nauseam and still do nothing to reverse their punishing campaign against mages or nerf the ridiculously OP grav well which is currently hitting for 8-10k with the 3x plus crit “bug” which one of the mods on these forums has said it will “take time” to fix. :joy: They were able to implement a patch nerfing the mage weapons we earned pretty quick, though.

This is not the game for those of us who want to play a mage. Get out now, it will not get better. We are just easy kills for GA users as far as the devs are concerned.

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Which is ONLY good for a tanky void gauntlet user.

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You mean like the great Blackguard mage weapons that were immediately nerfed after we spent hours grinding them and spent the umbral shards levelling them up? But for some reason it’s just mages who needed that nerf, it’s totally ok for BB and bow users to have the plagued strikes perk. :roll_eyes:

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You can put void stone anywhere xd

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Here are the perks on the surgeon’s ring which you are talking about, at 600:

Infected: Disease you apply lasts 14% longer
Void damage: You deal 4.8% more void damage
Keen awareness: +11% critical chance

If you think any of those except keen awareness are good traits for any mage except a void gauntlet user, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Even for void gauntlet users, the first trait is now useless since the plagued perk was nerfed from the Blackguard mage weapons, so it’s effectively a two-perker.

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Void Gauntlet is not mage’s weapon ?

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Bruiser’s have almost full BIS set + weapons to drop from dungeons while the only BIS stuff for mages got nerfed (Blackguard mage weapon). Also STR getting buffed even more with BB and Grav well, while mage getting nerfed and nerfed.
Switched to STR for now while it’s the absolute meta rn.

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I don’t think AGS hates mages any more then they hate bow users or tanks, or any other class.

It’s their love affair with Great Axe that drives them to nerf everything else.

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That’s so true. And don’t forget the war hammer.

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With all the kindness and charity in the world, if you’re struggling to perform well as a mage in this game it is without doubt a You Problem.