yeh if I switch between tank and healer and dps for the first time
3x 90 = 270
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perhaps a better idea, lower the cost to upgrade gearscore.
Nah, wards are a horrible idea. Bane I think is less annoying but still a boring perk. The only barrier to entry for doing challenging content should be is a 625 set with a good build, consumables, maybe trophies, and most importantly: skill and knowledge of the mechanics.
Wards are just lazy and annoying to try new stuff. It actually wouldnāt be that bad if they had just 1 perk for all PvE like Resil, instead of 5 different ones lol.
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it works without wardsā¦
25% more dmg tho and i wouldnāt recommend playing 5 con dps anymoreā¦ but ye
It doesnāt when you are rejected from the application, youād probably never be selected for a dungeon ever again by the elitist pve players you applied too lol
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Can just reroll all of their gear with a different perk. PvPers had to deal with replacing gear every few months. Itās fine.
yep, thatās true. same goes for a lot of builds in dungeons.
i mean idc, remove ward. but find a solution for all the crafted gearā¦ all the hours & gold wasted
No one will accept you to an M10 without ward lol
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This is the life of a PvPer
start ur own lobby. nobody will know u dont have ward 
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tell me about it, got full shirking fort, resilient set with few freedom & weapon perks.
and now a new with elemental aversionā¦
gonna happen next time again when they release a new weapon
aint like shooter game, login & pvp.
always going to change meta here and there, and u gotta make new sets
Itās not the amount of gear you need itās managing it between many different sets and builds.
Just to blanket it.
Human ward
Angry earth ward
Ancient ward
Corrupted ward
Lost ward
Beast ward (still donāt need yet why is it even in the game)
Now you haveā¦
Melee dps
Dex dps
Mage dps
Tank
Healer
Just one of every set for every ward is 25 armor sets my guyā¦ā¦ you see where Iām going with this?
You could even turn that into 35-40 sets.
We got 9 gear slots and I use them all for pvp. Managing this many bane and ward is just ridiculous.
I played OG vanilla wow and I love progression systems on gear and PvE but dude this just isnāt the way. Itās just more work, for what? Content that doesnāt have any truly beneficial drops outside of random BiS from m10 chests? Content that is actually easy enough to clear without ward or bane but the community demands it for easier runs / play level of the average playerā¦
Itās just a lot and itās honest unnecessary.
How about having to switch my major ward trophies constantly? Why canāt they just all be up? Itās just dumb QoL stuff
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Yeah, which is fine. I think PvE should have things like that instead of bane. Maybe vigor and invigorated would be used idk lol
This is true. Dumbing down is not necessarily the answer though. If gearsets and storage search were implemented differently, the amount of sets could be a joy rather than a burden. Something to be proud of and work toward.
Not so much the issue of replacing the gear (doesnāt seem like that will be a problem, instead Iāll have 4 identical sets of healer gear and around 2 sets of most other weapon types), but the removal of the goal and the sense of achievement for sets already completed.
Will we be able to salvage our old ward gear for the umbrals that went into them? I doubt it.
I mean they should def compensate people if theyāre going to redesign major game mechanics. I donāt think thatās a big issue to solve. Iād rather have more people doing dungeons.
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I want more people to play the game and less gatekeeping of content with useless gear
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True, the goal here is to have more people play and enjoy the game. Honestly, whatever they do, Iāll probably still play until a better game comes out. If removing wards will bring more people in, Iām all for it.
Itās the āifā that Iām not sure about, and this blind support for something that seems easy but may have other consequences. New people are great, some of them even have the stamina for the game. But I would argue the core player base is more important and if that erodes further the game will die.
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but buddy 625gs sets are not for new playersā¦ why are you framing the end game as if it is for fresh 60s?
It would be interesting to see if there is a generational divide in the responses here.