Im talking about live server.
Yeah same, but my point was that the bow is still strong on Live, though it is evidently “clunky” with the root after shot etc. The buffs its getting are MASSIVE, meanwhile the Musket is left to dust and forced to camp on rocks because try playing 150-200 con with a Musket and you hit like a wet noodle on Live.
I feel for musket players but that doesnt really have anything to do with bow.
in what universe bow hits harder than FS? To deal the same amount of damage with bow I need to buff myself with food and use a honing stone and still one fireball will be doing more damage lmao. Don’t forget that 80% of ppl are running physical ptorection armor, not magic, so in magic weapons will always hit harder.
In other words, bow won’t be meta. It just will move from F tier, to somewhere at D/C. Maybe some musket users will switch to bow now but in general meta won’t be changed a lot. Magic and bruisers still will be op
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in NW 
go try on freind or on dummies - aa and skills if you want. its way harder to aim, but dmg is much better with bow
I was hitting a light armor user for 800 damage a couple days ago. In return he was melting me. I don’t care what your test dummies show.
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lol
testing on dummies lmao
as i wrote, most ppl wearing physcial reduction armor, it’s just mathematically impossible to hit lower on magic. You can ask every bow user, everyone will answer you that bow has weakest damage lol
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You can test it on friend with any amount of resilient pieces you want. And i have friend playing bow that were saying same you are. So i ask them to play FS instead of bow. And u know what? They wanted to get back to bow fast since fs feels weak Grass is always greener the other side. Just check the numbers and stop imaging things.
that’s why I got two sets one for physical one for magic plus I can swap pieces. best part is that it costed no extra money I just used some of the alright roles or roles that were best for one or the other while trying for bis
I mean this just isn’t true. FS heavy hitbox is the same as bows and bow hits 1/3 more from what I have tested.
I guess we will just have to sit back and see how the ‘why did you let this bow go live’ complaints come in followed by the inevitable damage nerfs - and remember all the people on this forum screaming it’s no big deal.
I’d like to reiterate again that currently most of the bows people are facing on the PTR are the top bow players from every server, so it’s harder to gauge it’s true potential when 90% of those players would destroy you on live with a bow aswell.
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This isn’t true because I tested it on someone who had never even played range before and he was going around winning most of his duels.
No the other guy is right. I am a sweaty bow player and have encountered many other if my kind testing out long sought after bow buffs.
Bow is fine even though its easier to aim most people cant use it. Only difference for me is I dont have to be point blank to use it anymore.
Yeah, there was another guy trying to get bow nerfs too. Claiming hit boxes were too big and he hitting people for 4k. Showed brief little 15 second clips. I got interested, go to his twitch channel and watched the first half hour of 2 hours worth of footage. Guess what I seen? Him missing shots left and right. Damage being hit 1800-2400 mostly around the 2k range. I come back and post on the forums that he lied and he accused me of stalking him then deleted 3 of his videos, because I posted one of them for people to see, before anyone else can view them.
So then I found another video from someone else. These were guys that actually play bow and played 3 bow in arenas. Did they win? Yup. Were hit boxes too extreme? Nope. Was the damage way off the charts? Nope, not unless you consider 1100-2200 with one or two high crits in the 3-4k range out of 4 minutes worth of fighting as the norm to be off the charts.
I really think this bow thing is being way overblown by too many people just because its the new flavor. I don’t think any weapon has gotten this much change in game to date. This is all just paranoia to me and it all feels fine other than the dbl shot bug.
I am not claiming you to be a liar Kamo. I believe that you truly believe what you are saying. I just don’t think you are right. Duels are not the end all be all of balancing. In fact it should be the lowest thing considered in balancing.
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If you simultaneously believe that no one has been playing bow on live in the last 6 months because its straight garbage and that bow looks good on ptr only because everyone there is a top bow player, you’re in for a big surprise when everyone looks like a top bow player on live.
more than fair, a BAD GA player is deadly and you are not complaining LOL
Rapid fire might be a good skill to take now with arrow hitbox bigger. Can’t wait to test it on live : you think it’s going be viable even with root ? Even splinter shot might be good with hitbox bigger , tbh I still don’t understand how to utilize that skill 
I still wont take it. It hits like a truck but its too slow and the root is too long for me. I advocated for bow to not self cc. Thats basically what rapid fire does lol.