This Server Capacity issue is crazy…the server I managed to get on Earlier (but got dc and now in high queue, ah well) but My main issues is the Hostility between people in chat about what server this is and the language spoken…as my EU server they are getting hostile with German speaking people and Dutch and Russian, not to mention the French and Polish and such all Bickering about what language should be spoken in Global.
Please not only Increase Server Blade Capacity but look at Defining Servers for which EU Region…
EU is a VERY VERY Big Place with Huge Language Barriers across it…Give Certain Areas More of their Own Servers so we keep Everyone Happy Please…Your Amazon…You can Afford it!
For me I think it’s simple, if the server is not defined for your language then you speak English. I think it’s only common decency when you’re having such massive mix of various languages as you have in EU. At least with English, a majority of people understand it.
@MadNordling I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with you on this. However, for instance on Hellheim, there are people speaking in global using, French, Turkish, Spanish, Croatian, and a variety of other languages. When they are asked to speak English, they start being rude, in their own language, and AFAIK it’s not against TOS or EULA to just speak in another language. Reporting them when they are rude, but it takes a lot of effort to use translate services.
Additionally, when you point out that they should use English in public chat, they also point out that it’s not against TOS/EULA, and keep talking in their native language.
This is something that Amazon needs to address, for instance the servers that do NOT have a tag such as (EN/FR, EN/ES, EN/PL, etc). They should state “EN” only, so it’s written that they are ENGLISH servers. Additionally a note should be shown when logging in to use English in main chats. I do not care the least what language people use in their company or in PM. But in General chats, such as Global, Recruitment, Faction, it should be English unless otherwise specified by the server.
Except the Name Tags are an Advisement from Amazon and not some binding Rule.
I’m sick of people and their FOMO who try to force a Language on other people.
If you don’t understand it, either learn it or ignore it, problem solved.
My server is half English and half Dutch. Some Dutch is spoken. This doesn’t bother me and after an initial bit of argy bargy in chat it doesn’t seem to bother other people too much. It’s seems especially acceptable as there are no Dutch speaking servers. The arguments over different languages are always more annoying than seeing other languages to me.
What if everyone think like that? The Danes speak Danish, the Dutch speak Dutch, French speak French etc. etc. You’d segregate the server to pieces that way if everyone should just speak their language.
We don’t have separate servers for all languages in Europe anyway. So the base ground we have is English.
Problem is the eastern EU block doesnt have such good english skills like the west.
It is becoming better, but it is not on such level like you have in western europe.
Also its pretty common to have shared sk/cz servers.
Just poland itself has almost 40M people (thats 1/2 of germany, a bit less than spain, 2,5x the dutch population) and they dont have own servers like french, germans or spains do.
Not talking about russian servers.
It is common decency to speak the “common” language. You’re right on that point, adapting one’s behaviour -and language- to the “common” one which surrounds us is a form of respect. It is inclusive. It sacrifices, in a sense, one’s personal interests for the good of all.
However it is also common decency to be tolerant of other cultures, other languages. When you attempt to force other people from other cultures -who’s native tongue is not English- to speak English, you are demanding that they show this respect, in the name of common decency. Isn’t that discourteous in itself? That you should impose a behaviour that makes you more comfortable at the price of one that makes them less comfortable? That you should demand this? Forcefully?
I’ve often felt uncomfortable when the chat is filled with a language that I can not understand, and I often asked myself why this was the case, because, from a rational point of view, they clearly were not speaking to me, or about me, so what difference does it make? Why do I (and I do, despite what you may think after reading my post) feel more comfortable understanding chat that is not addressed to me or does not speak about me?
I think it is because I feel excluded when I cannot read what is said, it makes me feel like I am not part of that community, it makes me feel alienated. That’s the reason it is common decency to speak the common language. That’s why it is respectable to do so. Doing so is inclusive, not exclusive.
So I understand why someone would wish others to speak the common language. I just don’t think attempting to force them to do so is the “right” thing to do, particularly in the name of “decency”.
PS. not to mention that not everyone speaks English, and even amongst those that do speak English, not everyone feels comfortable speaking it.
What I’m saying is that the language to be used should be one that most people understand, and for Europe that happens to be English. I’m fully aware that there are those who don’t feel proficient to speak in English, and that’s quite OK. But flooding the entire chat with a number of various languages, means that it’s impossible to hold a conversation with everyone on the server that’s on global chat.
It’s not enforcing at all, nor is it a demand. It’s a request to keep things civilised. Europe consist of a multitude of languages. How do you think the global chat would be if everyone spoke their language?
It’s not enforcing at all, nor is it a demand. It’s a request to keep things civilised.
That’s fair enough, way I see it.
So if, after you have requested they speak English, they refuse? What then?
@iiehfyo for example, turned to the TOS, in the hopes of reporting players who did not speak English, so that they would be sanctioned for not speaking English and therefore, so that they be forced to speak English.
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Additionally, when you point out that they should use English in public chat, they also point out that it’s not against TOS/EULA, and keep talking in their native language.
Nothing one can do really. If the request falls on deaf ears that’s about it. I just argue that I think it’s common decency to speak a language most people can understand. The rest is up to each and every one of us.
@Baba, I never said that I was going to report anyone who speaks other languages than English.
It also becomes increasingly difficult to report bad behaviour if you cannot understand the language. If you manually translate it using an online translate service in order to see what is being said and it’s rude comments, you should report it, that is not tolerable. If we have 2000 people and there are 100 people that can speak one certain language, and they are being openly rude to other placers, or even racists, the other 1900 people are not able to report it because they do not understand.
@Ph03niX There are PL servers. CZ and SK, unfortunately not. I know that it in these countries are much more common to dub the videos instead of adding subtitles as were done in west. By using English in game, it will strengthen their skills in the language, one would think that would be desirable. When I started playing wow back in 2005, it was only available in English, and I speak a minority language which the client would never in a million years be translated too. Thanks to that I did develop better skills in English.
I agree with @MadNordling, if the servers do not have a dedicate language, the default should be in English.
If players want to talk in their native language, they have company chat they can join. If they want to stick together, which is quite normal when you are a minority in a new place, they can join the same company.
Additionally, there are, on my server, French and Spanish players who already have multiple servers in their own language, and they instead speak it in global chat.
There are also cases where the Spanish speakers ask for groups to dungeons in rec or global, and that in feels like something that is relevant for me. Do they only want to play with Spanish speaking players in a group, okay there are servers for that.
I see now, that I mis-interpreted your post, for you, there were two issues a) them being rude or breaking the TOS and you being unable to police them if they were because you did not understand and b) them speaking in languages other than English.
At least on that point!