As a bow/spear i can say I have the most difficulty when GA WH has grit because it pretty much negates my sweep. It also takes away KD from jav so thats nearly useless also. That leaves me only with pole vault which is slow and easily dodgeable. So right there one of my weps becomes very dangerous to use. So GRIT and also REAP. Reap fks me everytime. It happens so fast with little to no telegraphing. A lot of times when I beat a GA WH combo its because they didn’t have reap. Another big thing I see that separates a good GAWH from a bad one is wasting abilities. Once I see them start to throw their abils away especially grav well, I know their mine and I just start toying with them.
Yeah, you have grit on all your attacks which have extremely long windups. GA/WH attacks are incredibly easy to dodge, hell its even easy in heavy.
The only way you’re going to do damage to a decent bow user as a GA/WH player is with your charge and reap. Maybe adding mealstorm would help a little but then you’re losing out on grav well against other builds.
Yeah as you can see from those two posts above me, they come from exactly opposite POV and they both claim how it’s difficult match up. One would think that would equals itself out haha
It’s just that I’ve dueled a lot of bruisers now, and the only way theyre going to hit you is with attacks that don’t have long windups or when you’re just trading damage, which also just renders the warhammer useless for 1v1’s.
It is kinda a counter build… not easy to catch up especially if you are in heavy. Bow/rapier is even worse as they can disengage when they are in trouble. You won’t have the upper hand when fighting a a real good bow/spear/rapier that manages his stamina well, you gotta rely on perfectly timed skills and gap closers.
In heavy I have sta for 2 dodges and that is the only way to avoid the light attack from spear and you usually took some bow hits before coming into melee range (and often low on sta due to dodge bow) so when spear start to lightattack spam you die really fast…
Is there a counter to this or just avoid engaging guys with toothpicks?
Duels are completely irrelevant if you want to judge a build. GA/WH gets completely destroyed by ranged 1v1 as it should be.
Ranged might beat me 1v1 but in a war, while they pew pewing flags I will 2 shot them.
In OPR ill never chase ranged too. My job is to be on points.
Pvp is wars and OPR. Nothing else is relevant. People need to understand this
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Keep in mind some of these pvp guys out there fight all day everyday. Its all they do and they train with other people like them. Until you inject yourself into their culture and practice with the top guys you will never be like them.
That is true, wars are a different story because of how many people are packed in a tiny area.
But from context I am assuming OP is talking about 1v1.
I don’t think ‘nothing else is relevant’ though, they’ve already expressed interest in adding smaller scale PvP modes to the game.
Sure. I am talking about the current state of the game. Small scale pvp modes will be small groups fighting. In these groups I will have heals so a ranged will not be able to kill me easily.
If 1v1 becomes a thing I will just adjust my build and weapons in order to cope with ranged
1v1 is a thing. Its a thing where 2 ppl go toe to toe and one person wins and one person loses. Most ppl who “arent interested” in this arent interested because they cant hang.
M8. I am in one of the top companies in a high pop server.
We are all extremely geared and extremely skilled.
No one builds for duels. No one cares about duels. We duel for fan but there are no bragging rights from duels whatsoever.
You can think otherwise ofcourse but don’t assume I am some clueless casual…
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Yeah “we”
Well then why should ppl be interested in 1v1 when there is absolutely nothing to gain from it outside some e-peen?
PvP now is large scale, building for duels is probably the most pointless thing.
You said I am not interested because I can’t hang and I’ve answered to you that I can hang just fine.
Dont devolve the conversation into one word out of context quote fights just because you are out of arguments.
Duels are fine but you can’t base the meta based on duels, judge builds and then blame the devs for it. Duels are not relevant in these things
People love group combat because when they lose they can blame the team. When they win they can pat them selves on the back. Open world flagged encounters are where the weak are separated. The reward is glory, dominance, and reputation.
Hopefully cross server arenas are introduced so I can lay you down and softly whisper.
You are wrong. 1v1 is not balanced and thus you can claim nothing from it. Anyway let’s agree to dissagree.
You can have your duels and I will stick to my wars and OPRs 
You would lay me down? With what build?
Unarmed.
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