It is just a bad start, population will come back soon!

LOL, Again I don’t know what planet you guys live on. But when I watch streams I watch it soo I can gauge the game playability.

Twitch is not a sign of “success” in terms of actual gameplay.

Earnings Releases|Investor Relations | SQUARE ENIX HOLDINGS CO., LTD. There you go this is a financial report of FFXIV. How is this related to TWITCH?

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ffxiv does not have 350k concurrent right now.

millions of ACTIVE players doesnt mean 350k concurrent players. Also, based on their census data, its unlikely they have millions of Active players, in April they had 950k active. Their concurrent is unknown because they aren’t steam exclusive, but their steam peak is 60k concurrent

ffxiv is a success and a very stable game that does well, and makes a lot of money.

However its not a good point of comparison here. And tells little about the future and present of this game.

Well I guess what it does say, is a game can release extremely poorly and still be a huge success long term

Hey slow down kid your brain is about to explode.

Most companies show off their QFRs and yearly financial statement report. The majority of it is part of being open to the public for stock-related and investment opportunities.

If what you say is true then Genshin Impact should be the number 1 viewed Twitch since it has unprecedented 2 Billion dollars of net growth in just one year.

It is not.

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no it is not, show this data

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The current peak is 350k on November 2nd. So Approximately 2.6 time less than the Peak of 913k early October.

The slack was 592k in early October, beginning November it’s 126K so 5 times less.

This isn’t alarming ??

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The opposite is true. Content creators tend to flock to what they see as trending games. You’re also looking at it the wrong way. You look at the average numbers not when big streamers are spiking them.

If you were just going to leave your defense as “twitch numbers aren’t correlated to success” you would’ve been fine, Instead you seem to be showing your bias by making wild, unfactual, assumptions in order to make your game look better. It begs the question, if you’re willing to do that, what else are you willing to do to prove your point?

You’re strawmanning I never correlated money with population. YOU are the one doing that.

I played ffxiv.

https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/55652337.html

950k active users.

note active users is not concurrent, concurrent is players online at the same time. Active is players who have played and achieved basic achievements in the last 3 months

every game thats marketed well has more concurrent close to release than a month later. this is not abnormal

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What baits?

I shown you facts, you tell me some stupid limbo crap.

Look if shroud had 100k viewers of New World and now New World as a whole has 19k viewers what does it tell you about this game. Use your brain.

my point is not being alarming or not. its the way you are comparing a release peak with a low population time, you either compare low population time on release or high population times from nowadays.
And no, its not alarming. you are assuming that people left the game, wich is not true. people are just not constantly online… people are no longer leaving the game open in queue for hours, or leaving the game open running against walls. it seems to be stabilizing at 360k concurrent players.
“Concurrent” is different than “player base”. You may even have the same player base than at launch and just because of better queues, the concurrent players would drop. This is 100% expected

What are you even talking about? You were saying people don’t watch games on twitch if they play them. I said that’s completely wrong and you made it up because you have a severe cognitive bias towards supporting FF14.

-You obviously have a love affair with FF14 to the point where you’re basically only capable of seeing information that supports your beliefs.

There are soo many articles out there relating to FFXIV population. I’m sorry if you can’t google or read and I’m not basing it on stupid number on Twitch.

OP should at least try to make a correct line =) lol

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No I’m stating influencers are the reason why some numbers are clearly imploded. They bring the community with them.

That is why TWITCH is not a good source basing numbers. Just the same as me who watch Twitch to gauge playability and turns it off the moment I buy the game.

ESO, WoW, and FFXIV all have populations much closer than their respective fanboys would have anyone believe.
Believing internet journalist clickbait over actual statistical evidence is cringe. I’m not even gonna try to address that.

Agree on that… but the line from OP is wrong =) from top to bottom…, you either take line top - top, or bottom - bottom =)