I agree that point is not at all limited to a single weapon, its just exacerbated in this scenario due to the next point. I also agree that combat should be as you stated, but it just doesn’t seem plausible as it would come at the cost of rebalancing literally everything. Do I think we deserve that as players? 100%. Do I think AGS can pull it off? Questionable.
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Yep. I was saying this on PTR forum. That:
- movment penalty after each attack
- movment penalty after being hit by mele
- plus all new nerfs
would kill mage. and they killed build. It feel like sh… now. You can play vs mele only if you outskill them heavly. Any good mele near your skill lvl just sh… on you now.
They wanted to nerf range builds that were to mobile: dex.
But they f… up. And mages got hit as a result.
So now i suggest to fix mages by adding slow on range hit that will allow mages to kite. Since we cant get distance when mele does close it and we cant kill them before they close it and we dont have dmg and/or cc to fight close combat.
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Dude there is at least few mele builds that could easly stick to mage even before this patch. GA/hatchet, GA/SS, SS/Hatchet to mention few. You count not run away from this builds, they would always jump back on you again with all mobility they have.
Well feel melee pain before update when it was pew pew battlefield that was dull too. Against spears, hatchet, sns nothing changed those builds were always hard counter to FS/IG.
No they were not hard counter. They had lot of tools to kill fs/ig mage but you coud fight this build and win. It was metter of who will do more mistakes. But now result is decided before fight starts. Since mage has nothing to respond combination of mobility cc and dmg bruiser does have.
i feel like people ignore the fact that actual irl mage probly wouldn’t cast spells in full sprint, also in-game musket and bow also walks slower when attacking, not mentioning melees who are sealed in specific animation
Mages don’t exist IRL so I don’t understand the comparison.
Bows and muskets aren’t dependent on being in melee range, so their walk animation goes unpunished.
Melees have far better gap closers and don’t have to aim.
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You never had any response nothing changed about that cc combo is same stagger, shield stun, hatchet into back you are dead… Shield bash stun lasts very long …
Melees are out ranged by dex so hard that it’s still going to be ‘pew pew battlefield’. These changes really only screw over light mages and light bruisers / skitzos so don’t worry, bowpr isn’t going anywhere.
That could be true.
DEX is still great, STR is still great, INT is finally dead. AGS mission completed.
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Yea mage had bad tools but had mobility thx to light armor doge and shirking energry. So you had a chance to outplay bruiser. Now you dont.
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Bruiser with GA or GS and hammer you should kill easily if you cant dunno maybe you do something wrong I mostly win this fight with FS/IG and IF I play VG/IG build is like war crime not a fair fight tbh… , assasins are problems for mages. But As I said its a counter build and he must do many mistakes before he will lose. Its really tough fight and in Most cases on FS/IG build against hatchet and SnS I lose dunno how to counter it. I go tomb even if he miss stagger and shield stun he change to hatchet root me wnd due to his mobility I cant run away.
Do you think IRL someone can open a vortex with a greataxe??? What kind of argument is this?
Yes, so FS+IG mages should fight only against GA+WH ? This is stricte only one build that FS+IG have chance to win. Any other weapon can cancel mages now.
GA+WH is also build for Mass pvp, like wars, not designed for 1v1.
Concusion? FS mages are not class for pvp and not class for pve anymore. Its not class at all. Just dust.
Only option for FS mages is change class if u still want to play this game.
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Bro for now go bug report and support me our Ice Tomb is bugged. Xd!!
Yea you can kill any bruiser only if he is not your skill or better than you. Moment bruiser have 3-4+ movment related perks from weapons and some cc and is your lvl or better you are f…ed
There are not many good bruisers, but if you meet one of them you will see where is issue with mage now.
Maybe this is not bug, but confirmation of new direction of New World…
Eliminate magic classes, make just medieval game.
Doubt anyway FS got also some buffs now with stoneform they cant interupt burn out or FT … this big change, find positivies xd
Well in duel it looks fine, arenas too but you must have team many people are trolls … OPR/Wars well mass pvp … hard to say anything if you always have 1vsX fights if you play solo.