Uhm…
Uhm…
DUH its cause unlike other weapons, mages use MANA.
Neither melee or dex ranged can use it obviously. why do mages get another resource to manage vs other weapon types? Not only that but they get all of these mana regen perks. Im sure if the other weapons had mana regen passives/perks instead of damage perks then mages would be less OP.
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Because 3 flamethrowers give 1 GA a hard time
Because they get 2 slots in war
Because of their exquisite choices in super bis bop named gear
Because speed runs are 4 mages, 1 healer
Mages, mages everywhere. They need their massive cc nerfed, and damage reduced by 50%.
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I didn’t realize we had mages in this game! 
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Idk man. There are several fire/ice mages that I know of that are pretty ridiculous in any pvp. Could it be the user?
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give them a dex setup and they play a war solo 
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My god, please give me a break with your „it‘s a skill issue“ Bullshit. All these people that base their unpopular opinion on the fact that they know some insane PvP player that is popping off on their Pepegaserver is just so, sooo tiring.
I‘m consistently topping boards in OPR and I have no issues performing well in Arenas, does that automatically mean the class setup I‘m using is balanced or good for that matter? Absolutely not.
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I’m not saying that it doesn’t have problems, I’m saying that maybe people should put some more effort into it and maybe it wouldnt actually seem so bad. Just like all these people who are saying that bow is about to be dead. Bow is great. Wow, you have to actually touch a body with the arrow instead of the air next to the body. Those who are already actually good at bow don’t even care about the hitbox changes.
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You said it all, brother!
And sometimes if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it‘s a duck.
Good players will always be able to make bad builds look good. But no matter how much „effort“ these guys put in, this doesn‘t change the fact that those builds are lacking.
I see what you‘re saying and to a certain degree I don‘t disagree, but when the feedback is plenty and that unanimous across all different layers of players, it‘s highly unlikely it‘s purely a skill or „effort“ issue.
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Anecdotal experience here, but pls tell this to the insane muskets when they absolutely fail at playing any other build. I see it a lot.
I don’t completely disagree with this either, but we are here on the forums. Cannot really stress enough how much hyperbole is flying around here.
Do mages consist of anything besides fire staff for the forums opinion? Because IG/VG is very strong in and well represented in wars. Fire staff’s are too depending on the war.
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its mostly FS, but even VG/IG are more used in war for their support utility. They have some decent dmg in there but a lot of it has been gimped.
Id rather the devs rework all mage weapon so 1 tree is more spellcaster the other is more battlemage designed to be played w an offhand but that kind of swap dependent ability tree is prolly too much.
Problem is devs went w spell casting and auto attacks and auto attacks from mages are going to just lose compared to dex autos and melees that can cleave. So they really need to up the auto attack side of the trees and open up the spell casting side w some better burst combo or range.
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Yes. If it doesn’t use a FS it’s not a mage. Is the idea that the forums give me.
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I have 2400+ hours on Firestaff. I’ve stuck with it through thick and thin. It is objectively bad right now, it’s not an opinion. How much more effort you think I should put into it?
There are only a few competitive servers. I find most people saying it’s fine play on servers full of 50 con bots.
You don’t even need to look at PVP. The fact that literally noone wants a Firestaff in any mutation even ones with 30% increase damage with fire, tells you everything. Add to that, only 1-3 Firestaves allowed in competitive wars IF THAT, and only if you are BIS to the teeth and absolute top tier player. You don’t have to look further to see it’s in a rough ass spot atm.
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finally someone said it.
I don‘t fully disagree with this, although IG got some pretty significant nerfs this patch, which massively reduced the overall damage output and pushed IG/VG into a pure utility role for wars. The upcoming Bile Bomb heartrune will also be a pretty good alternative in Wars to running IG/VG to apply healing debuffs in key moments.
I already know that my opinion is unpopular. If a weapon isn’t the most effecient thing, that doesn’t mean it’s bad. If I had to put it into percentage form, it’s my opinion that like 60% of it is skill issue and the other 40% is warranted and somewhat overblown complaints.
i am like the only firestaff main on here, saying firestaff isn’t weak… go check all the firestaff posts… I think it needs some QOl changes and a few trait reworks, like most of traits give mana, which is useless. Anyways i think its mainly a user error.