Yes that sad. That why AGS know the situation and make scarab BOE.
That’s not even true. I haven’t touched my crafting professions at 150, and most people haven’t bothered with it either. Wanna know why? BECAUSE BOP WASN’T A THING. Now it is, and yeah, NOW you see people all over the place being crafters, because BOP ruined the entire point of crafter Roles.
Like I can actually spot the moment crafter announcements dropped to 0, and that was when PvP craft mods and BoP came into the game. Before the update, people all over on the server were asking people “Hey, is there an armorsmith or weaponsmith? I need this and this done”. You will never see it now.
If Scarabs are BoE, the value is created by finding the Scarab. Crafters will compete over them and wealthy people have enough money to buy the Scarabs to such a high price that “average” crafter will not crafat with it. So they will be used by a handful of people. If they are BoP, the value is created through crafting and not gaathering it. There are enough items to find in the world that can be sold to wealthy people. Where is tthe difference for a gatherer between finding a Golden Scarab and finding another valuable item in the world? It will have the exaact same effect for them. More money. It is a poor implementation of such an item.
So BoP items incentiviced players to engage with the crafting profession and that is a bad thing?
We have completely different experiences I guess. For my understanding, noone is asking for a crafter, since everyone knows by now that selling mats is smarter than crafting items. Mortal Empoweremnt being BoP was causing this? Or what other perks are you talking about? It is pretty much the only BoP perk that is being used today.
YES, it is. Like how are you gonna sit there and tell me “Oh, BOP is great for crafters” when the reality is crafters DESPISE it. Everything you make with said item is BoP, meaning there’s literally no reason to craft said item if it’s not benefitting you or anyone else.
There’s a good saying for this. If everyone’s super, NO ONE IS.
Mortal Empowerement crafts can be sold, Stopwatch crafts can be sold. About what BoP crafts are you talking??
The PvP craft mods, they’re Bind on Pickup, you can’t trade them with said crafter, like I stated BEFORE.
Everything you make with them is BoE and can be sold. Those items are very valuable on the market and gives you an eaasy access to make profit as a crafter.
Bind On Equip is different from BoP. You missed my point entirely. You cannot sell the Potion of Tyrannis or the Brown Potion, these are PvP craft mods.
Mh? Yes you cant sell them, but you can sell the crafted item. It is an easy way to make profit for crafters by getting them from the reward track and then craaft with them.
Previously you wrote
which is just false.
If the Scarab is BoP, but the crafted item is BoE, I won’t mind this at all. OP has a point though. If the Scarab is BoE the ones that would be in so much advantage are the mega-rich since they will just buy it all up and they’ll be the first ones to get all the good pieces. If it’s BoP, they would have to work just as hard as everyone else.
On the plus side, crafters can actually benefit from this since they can be more valuable. They can farm the Scarabs and charge extra if anyone wants to craft using it.
It’d be like:
Do you want a regular craft? Give me the mats. Tips are optional.
Do you want to use a scarab? Give me the mats + extra equivalent to the value of the scarab.
The crafter who can diligently farm will be the winner.
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My point is a little bit different. Through supply and demand, Golden Scarabs will only be used for the biggest and most expensive crafts in the game (which are usually done by mega-rich, since they are ok with losing money for a while before they are making profit). So it is not because mega-rich want to control the market (I do not think that that would be possible on most servers), it is rather through supply and demand, that BoE Scarabs will only be used by a handful of people, which is a bad design of the Scarabs imo.
I did not think about this one tho. Actually a very good point.
Its pretty easy to not trade back the item until the person tips. Folks expect 20% in real life for doing nothing but spen hours to be able to provide a service in game folks thinknits okay to not tip or pay something lol.
Worst idea ever. Why u want to make game more hard. Let people access bis items more.
Or just dont trade the item back at all? Even more profit.
It does not matter if Scarabs are BoE or BoP. In both cases, there will be more BiS items on the market.
For me personally the lack of fully functioning economics (that doesnt ebb and flow, and is not dependant on people leveling their skills) is actually what’s giving me such grief in finding an MMO I really like.
Aside from that sidetrack, but as comment to the OP:
In that vein, making any crafting resource BoP makes no sense…
See that is reportable probably get you banned.
When you craft for tips and wait for a tip thats fulfilling the agreement you made when you traded the goods.
Im fine trading you back mats and keeping the bis item i crafted if your not going to tip.
No tip, no goods.
Could you explain this please? To me BoP craafting mats is the easiest way to keep crafting profitable and also easy to balance.
The people complaining they want it BoP are the same complaining about tp prices. Even if large scale crafters buys every mod, the market will be full of good/useful gear at decent prices which help the majority. Lots of people run reek etc for trophy mats as a way of income which would leave the scarabs stuck in their inventory with no value. I’ve got all tradeskills outfits trophies but only craft what I need but the majority of people dont want to level nor will ever craft. Another gatekeep if changed
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