Massive Hatchet Damage That Persists With Against All Odds

[mezner]

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• What is your character name in New World: Mezner
• What server/world did you experience your issue on: Pyrallis
• Describe the issue you are experiencing:
  Previous description: A few of us are using hatchets and there’s a general sentiment that it does too much damage in Outpost Rush (between 2K and 4K without crits). After the game, we’ve confirmed that whatever the internal buff is that causes it seems to persist beyond the game UNTIL a weapon swap occurs. It could be how Against All Odds is calculated or some other stacking of Accumulated Power. We notice that this seems to just go up and then be retained.

New description: Kill players or enemies with a hatchet using the Against All Odds talent and watch damage increase until you weapon swap.

• Is this a bug or an exploit:
  Previous: Bug, but only because we don’t understand totally how to reproduce it. It could be an exploit used to do content post Outpost Rush.
  New: Bug, but now exploitable.

• (if a bug) How did the issue effect your gameplay: Players are effectively destroying others in Outpost Rush and are able to use that same power outside of the format.

• (if a bug) Were you able to recover from the issue: Weapon swap removes the improvement to damage.

• (if a bug) Please include a screenshot or video of the issue that you have experienced:
  Video of the massive damage post Outpost Rush: Outpost Rush Hatchet Damage Persists Until Weapon's Swap - YouTube
  Video of the accumulation of the buff to damage during a game: WTF is with this Hatchet Damage Buff?? - YouTube
  (Apologies for quality. Recorded discord stream to show evidence with player’s consent)

• What are the steps to reproduce the issue as you experienced:
  Previous: Play Outpost Rush with a hatchet and just battle for a while to get a buff, then leave and whatever the buff is, it persists.
  New: Take the Against All Odds talent and kill stuff.

May be similar to this issue: HUGE EXPLOIT - Hatchet Stacking in Outpost RUSH

[mezner]

I’ve run a variety of tests on this. I’ve determined that this problem IS NOT LIMITED TO OUTPOST RUSH. Taking simply Berserk, Feral Rush, Dispatch, and Against All Odds if I run around killing mobs on repeat in Restless show (in my case the faster spawns around Channelview Post) my non-crits went from high 400s to 1.2K or so. The only way to remove this buff was to weapons swap. Removing the Against All Odds talent made it such that I was unable to increase the stacking buff.

In short, Against All Odds causes a stacking buff until you weapon swap.

[mezner]

Other testing details:

• Persists through death.
• Can be taken as a buff into an Expedition, where it applies still, and leave where it STILL applies.
• Persists through an Azoth teleport.
• There appears to be a cap to the damage that is applied. I’d approximate it to triple the base damage without the buff as a maximum

[TheProbo]

This Hatched exploit is riddicolous!

Again Wars are filled with those damn fu****, outpost rush filled with them too.

@NW_Mugsy Please Escalate this exploit higher and START BANNING PPL for those damn exploits.

[Vasiliy]

Can confirm all of the above. Root cause seems to be the ‘passive’ buffs don’t drop off when they should, same happens with great axe speed buff.
Also, bump.