Musket is broken (proof in post) but you want to nerf it wrong way

Hello. Just watched Q&A video of devs talking about future balance changes.
If i get it right, it is GOING TO BE EVEN WORSE!

Main thing is they talked about Nerfing musket and light armor.
Musket nerfs that are comming might be something to do with accuracy and mortal empower,.
Also want to nerf resil etc,… perks efectivity on light armor.
Problem with this is. Musket is not insane strong because of just mortal empower,. base dmg is busted and if you nerf resist for light armor, its going to be even worse, let me show you video that i did test to proof it to you.

Remember, on these video - I use almost two-perk musket with keen that doesnt add up to dmg (if i had keenly jaggered, keenly empower, vorpal, vicious, it would be even worse.)
I DONT have any mortal empower and still do this crazy dmg against player with 5 resil, 1 physical aversion, elemental aversion and also 200 cons (except first clip)!

I also did record more scenarios so you cant tell these situlation doesnt happen, i did do body hits, did go more far away etc,… Just watch videos please, thank you.

  1. Test subject have 150 cons , also you can see gear in video.
    Got headshoted with powder burn
    150 cons light / 1 Elemental Aversion / 1 Physical Aversion vs Musket - YouTube

  2. Test subject have 200 cons, same gear as before.
    Got shot by powder burn and body hit
    200 cons light / Full Resilient/ 1 Elemental Aversion / 1 Physical Aversion vs Musket (Body hits) - YouTube

  3. Test subject have 200 cons, same gear as before 100m far away!
    Got shot by power burn headshot and body hit
    200 cons light / Full Resilient/ 1 Elemental Aversion / 1 Physical Aversion vs Musket (100m) - YouTube

  4. Test subject have 200 cons, same gear as before 100m far away!
    Got shot by power burn and body hit
    200 cons light / Full Resil/ 1 Elemental Aversion / 1 Physical Aversion vs Musket (100m Body hits) - YouTube

Imagine if they turn down reduction for light armor, muskets will be even stronger. Also yes, i can 3 tap bruiser in medium gear with 200 cons too. :slight_smile:
So dont try to argue that musket doest big damage only to light, if you are lazy to test it yourself and dont belieave me, let me know and i test it on video too.

I think if you watch all these videos and still defend musket, you might be crazy.
Have a nice day!

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balanced, you can totally play against this musket with 900 con and survive for 10 seconds

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Yeah I run max thrust protection + gem dust and muskets & bows still shred. Very overtuned.

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You should test the bow. A 300 dex bow with an empowering dodge hits about 30% harder than a 300 dex/150 intel musket.

lol yesterday in OPR a musket was shooting me and I paid them no mind. Just walked by poke…poke…poke. Lost no more than a third of my hp. 17% thrust resist 5% ele resist did not use gemstone or oakflesh, Medium, 200 con. I kind of felt bad for that musket, to feel so worthless.

These are some great videos showing that Powder Burn needs to be balanced to lower the DoT damage, significantly. Thank you for making them!

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Yeah musket might be strong in this particular case,
but overall: burst damage > DoT damage

you can still counter the burn with regeneration pots, purifying toast, vigor perks, desert sunrise, cleansing pots.

although you cant counter the burst damage from GS/GA combo, Bow combo, Heavy+Fireball, rapier bleed combo and etc…

To be able to deal a good damage muskets need to trade health for damage.

This means a 50-65 con musket (max con to run 300dex/150 int) will have 8k HP and still need to run full thrust protection against other muskets.

Basically a GS combo can 100-0 any musket in 2 seconds, much different than a 13seconds powder burn that you could heal overtime.

You can usually 3 shot a light GS melee if you land powder burn.

You can easy 3-shot bruiser in medium with 210 cons

In different conversations on CoS with several musket players believe it or not they are fine with removing hit scan on musket, making it a projectile weapon to make the musket more challenging to use.

The hardcore musket players remind me of the old hard core bow players. They wanted skill to matter more then easy mode.

Of course that’s a small sample but I found it interesting that some of the more hardcore known musket players on CoS would want that.

You cant be serious,…
Looks at this musket burst, it isnt only about dot…
210 cons bruiser with full resilient, and dot didnt even do that much dmg…

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Since you are showing videos of how musket is so OP, how about you show a full game video of how easy it is to LAND those shots during an OPR.

That one, you are not going to do right? Doesn’t fit your narrative?

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you have 5 con at this video…

try making the same video with a 5 con BiS bow to check the damage, you can do 12k+ in the same combo…

All im saying is, you wanted muskets to have 7k HP and do 1k damage?

A bow can do the same amout of burst and have 12.9k HP (I have both musket and bow builds)
If you want musket damage to be nerfed so bad you should start carrying right now about other weapons, cause I feel very soon you’ll be back here with another “bow is broken” or “firestaff is broken” videos showing 5 con builds… :rofl:

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You mean clips like these?

Sure could make whole montage for you when i will start playing musket.

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You should remove those clips if you are exploiting in those videos.

Exploliting how? :smiley: :smiley:

Bow perks applying to the musket. It’s fine if you aren’t exploiting in those clips.

Nope, do you know how it worked? If so you know i couldnt switch weapons if i was abusing that. Do you agree with me on that?

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No, I don’t know exactly how it worked, especially the second exploit they fixed the other day. You don’t have to describe anything.

Wrong

I have a medium set, similar to a bruiser, and musket shots tickle. Barely notice muskets are even in OPRS. Bows, a different story. Muskets, not too noticeable.

Can also post ya some vod clips, of me attacking war bruisers…and it taking more than 3. Which is why most don’t touch medium and heavy users,