Mutation dungeon's disaster

Imagine not been to one-phase him :laughing:

The number of pug M10s being ran since the changes went live are so low compared to before. M10s were fine the way they were.

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I suspect this has to do with two fundamental issues with the game

  • lack of transparency of what builds/gear/weapons are best. AKA: you can’t inspect players, you can’t look at damage meters, there is no way to simulate damage/mitigation/healing in game, and finding good external…up to date sources on the matter is challenging

  • only a subset of weapons are really “viable” to run m10 gold due to melee weapons having an extraordinary kit that plays well with mutations, content favors clumping, etc.

Players can go their entire game life thinking their build is just fine, but then hit a wall in mutations - find out they have to completely rebuild, and get super frustrated.

Anyway - just my two cents of watching the major differences between those who struggle, and those that find the game easy. It is simply knowledge of builds. Pick the cookie cutter comp and mutations become about as hard as the normals in this game. It actually kinda sucks, tbh.

The hardest part about this game is not getting carpal tunnel from LMB spamming. It is worse than any hack and slash game ever in that regard.

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Agreed it is harder cus muts are harder, so peeps will be less likely to run them with pugs. I personally don’t really get that worked up when things don’t go write, its annoying but hay far more important things to worry about.

But I understand peeps wanting to do things and get the rewards etc.

I hate PvP in this game - play other games for that fix (I love PvP and usually where I spend my time in any other game)

But as a PvE’r - I’ve been advocating for better rewards for those that PvP. There is a clear double standard where they don’t make PvE do PvP but they make PvP do PvE OR make them wait and grind so much unrealistically.

I stated before, I completed 26 PvP tracks and have gotten 1 opportunity ever to buy umbral shards. It offered 1k shards, and I forget the salt cost…but I remember thinking the salt cost being high.

and the faction vendor? wtf…how hard would it be to update that stuff?!

and why the hell does the rusher crates ever give gear without resilient? drives me nuts that resilient exists at all vs something that is passively applied to all when in PvP mode but whatever

never mind that OPR hasn’t been changed since when? the map mechanics are not even used because its so trashy. So much can be done to make that space better, but nope. PvP needs a new map, but at this point, I’d be happy if they made the OPR map work the way it was intended.

welcome to the firestaff/ ig players

want to play garden muta, to bad, fire Muta.

want to play B&B, to bad Ice Muta.

want to play corrupted dungeons, to bad -40% ice :slight_smile:

want to play laza / ennead, to bad -40% fire dmg

My team can kill chardis before first stage, even before he spawns l2p :troll:

Lets be serious now, I have never seen that good group that can do this on first stage without chardis being able to trigger next phase. Send me some video if you can, I’d like to learn more about it. To be precise - a team that kills chardis before he is ABLE to trigger next phase, because you can easly skip 2nd phase if you keep attacking and that is not killing him in one stage in my eyes.

I want to like pvp in this game and I too want fun content for PvE mains. which is why I want pvp to be more rewarding and fun so they stop mucking up pve for PvE mains.

also want better PvE in general for PvE mains but as long as pve is required to pvp it will always be held back because it has to accommodate pvp players who need a quick easy grind to go and pvp.

like I said forced gear progression for pvp through pve hurts EVERYBODY.

They need to raise PvP rewards. I want to play the game, I enjoy that part of the content. But yea I’m at the same point. Idc if I get bronze or gold. But people do for whatever f reason.
And I’m tired to be forced to do m10’s just so I can actually enjoy pvp.
But wait. This week I got angry earth ward up. So now I should waste a full week to get ancient up at least. So next week I can run that hopefully whole week so best I get corruption or lost up aswell.
Just so THEN i can FINALLY start to work on my pvp gearsets which would take months.

Yea, just no. Fk this game

My group definitely dropped him to 10% on first drop on our 22min run last week-end. Kinda close to one phase him. I can agree that calling it « one-phase » him isn’t the best term but usually we kill him before he finish second laser. You also gain alot of dps if you only kill « one ball » and others alrdy focus Chardis from the beginning. Edit : This is a MMO, you will ALWAYS have some sort of PVE to do to get involved in PVP afterwards

Resistances were removed. No more -40%.

on normal dungeons. correct

Creatures will now only have damage type resistances if they have an Affix or are in a Mutated Expedition.

On mutations also. Only bosses with Resistsnce affixes aren’t ( you usually only have 1 small mini boss / dungeon)

woot??

Creatures will now only have damage type resistances if they have an Affix or are in a Mutated Expedition.

Yea seems like a typo from their posts , if you chek the Resistsnce / Weakness by mobs type this is what you get

from which page.

Other example from last boss of BB


I don’t see any thurst resistance and I can confirm I didn’t had any blue number while using my bow in m10 last week

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hm… and u mean in Mutation?
nvm saw the bottom text to late…

welll fk me then…
i trusted their Patch Notes :rofl:

Yea you kinda made me doubt for a bit lol, they changed the mob table , I agree that it’s kinda confusing wording

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