Neft lifestaff FFS

VG meta was cancer. Scream on CD every 14-16s instead of 25s. Walk up and scream. Did you miss? Run away. Rinse and repeat.

Multiple VGs walking around with scream up means nobody can walk anywhere near without being CC chained to hell.

Para are indeed strong atm.

I will agree there, but i think this patch has sorted the “healing is over powered” debate imo.

The DE bursts are conditional and single target only.
The target has to be sub 50% for the CDR to proc otherwise its longer than LE used to be.

A lot of the time you’re just topping up mild damage so while that clip can happen, its not a guaranteed situation.

Edit: also ive seen the rebound move to a full HP ally so thats a bit busted.

yep, everyone insta melted, but thats what i enjoyed about it. You didn’t stand around for minutes until skull popped up, you went in had quick brawls where timing and team work was important, as opposed to now when you stand around and burn up each others utility for ages. Positioning, team work and timing being very important is what i think makes a good meta. ofc i did also enjoy absolutely fucking healers with spike.

This difference wasnt just VG tho, in the beginning resilient was bugged and BB/cc nerfs werent there yet

So the difference between now and before update was u can live for more than 2 sec and cast off a DE but right now if a good dps is focusing one me i can’t pull of a de
The reason is simple if i cast a DE when I’m or the target is above 50% health then I’m on like 3sec cd( including all the cd reduction from light attack and all) and ur dead same the case for anyone so the only thing u can rely on is someone to peel for u or stun and heal
If u can’t put out enough damage to do that then u are not really good
Yes this is when i dueled a good PvP guy
Also i can’t not anymore kite 3+ ppl when i could do a lot more before a good player can solo kill me SOLO KILLL

The first 2 guys attacking gave up attacking Traben41. After that it was 1 hammer guy hitting and other 2 were running nearby.

I dont see how Life Staff its OP. There are also more enemy around and completely ignoring u.
So do u want a game where whoever cast first skills to win? Healers to be useless, Tanks to be useless. Basically u want a DPS game.

But healing a medium/heavy guy vs 2 enemy makes it overpowered. Weird way of seeing things.

The problem I’ve seen in opr is people don’t attack the healer, instead 10 of them fight 2-3 bruisers like morons. :rofl:

the numbers alone are incredibly strong, but there’s no point arguing against divine embrace because even I don’t think its the actual issue. The issue is sacred ground letting anyone, myself included from my own experience, dance around forever even against 3 or more people. Like you said healers can be prevented from casting DE, but once sacred ground is casted, anyone can be “immortal” for the next 8 or so seconds

Healing is strong.

I play as a healer, and while I do find that I get blown up by good players, I think that is fine given that most of the time it is due to me making a mistake.

However, the skill ceiling for healing is definitely not lower than it is for a lot of other weapons. I have played virtually everything apart from bow, musket, and blunderbuss, and in my experience Lifestaff is definitely not easier than, say, GA / Hammer or Spear / Rapier or Void Gauntlet / Ice Gauntlet or Firestaff / Rapier, etc.

I will say that my gear definitely isn’t the best. I only have one item at 625, and almost no item is perfectly optimized, so perhaps when I get the best gear I will magically be able to roll my face across the keyboard and keep everything in a 1.000 feet radius, including myself, alive. Until then, I have to actually try to keep two / three people (and myself) alive.

Now, the above only applies if I have one (or more) people harassing me. If I am left to heal (like the healer in the video) it is dead easy. The skill ceiling is, indeed, low. But, if people ignored me as I was ramming my VG blade through their throats, then the skill ceiling would be similarly low.

Just stick a spear guy on a healer and CC them to hell and back, or a hatchet player like the likes of Wiliam Pico or Iloh and that should make any healer’s job quite challenging. Heck, if you have musket players in your squad who are anywhere near as good as Israelious, Bx3, and Okarin (spelling?) (they are all on our server), then let those musket players have a field day and target the healers.

  1. If I am allowed to freecast, then I am able to keep my teammates alive most of the time (unless the odds are overwhelmingly stacked against us) without too much effort. Skill ceiling: low (at that point, it depends on the skill of my teammates).
  2. If MOST players focused on me, I would be pretty happy too as I would pull out my rapier and run around. Skill ceiling: low to moderate depending on who I am facing.
  3. If I have to defend myself from one or two good assailants as well as keep my teammates up. Skill ceiling: high.

Like with most things, the skill ceiling for a healer exists on a sliding scale. In some instance and with certain specs, the skill ceiling is, admittedly, low, but that isn’t always so.

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It’s a pretty easy weapon to play if left alone but pretty hard and harder than most dps weapons when people are focusing on you at that point yeah skill matters
I mean i most of the time is able to keep 3 stacks of intensify while healing even when people are focused on me that means most the time I’m not using rapier
I mostly use rapier when i solo a point in opr at that time it’s about me alive not get hit by any abilities and annoy others

If I have the time to manage stacks of intensify, then most of the time I don’t really need the extra healing it provides :stuck_out_tongue: I agree, though. Healing when under pressure is difficult, but that is also why it is fun.

@GIMSE I do wish they would change Sacred Ground, though. I think the main problem is the 50% extra healing from all other sources. 8k health pots, Infused regeneration pots, and 6k mana pots (with Healthy toast) turns every player standing inside SG into a healer on steroids.

I personally dislike the ability because it doesn’t fit my playstyle. I like being on the move, not be confined to a tiny patch on the ground. Yet, it is too powerful a skill to pass up on. I would be 100% fine if they increased the radius (by a lot), slashed the healing so it is perhaps a 300 health per second heal, and reduced the healing effectiveness boost from 50% to 15%. However, if they did that, then I want Splash of Light to get a rework :stuck_out_tongue: It is a F*^%$@ terrible skill. I would love for it to be something akin to Prayer of Mending from WoW, for example. Really anything beyond what it is now. The casting animation is prohibitively long and the healing subpar at best.

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But if a healer is being pressured or forced to use abilities on themselves, then they’re not healing their group. That’s how groups die. The burst damage is nuts after patch. People are vanishing during the 1 second cast time.

or just nerf rapier as its literally a get out of jail free card for all builds, and buff other weapons to more effectively burst life staff. Ive seen u make so many nerf posts im starting to think ur trolling.

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Slotting rapier means you lose 50% of your offensive capabilities. Cause let’s face it, rapier can’t hold its own weight against Spear + Hatchet in CQC.

Not every build can run rapier because they can’t afford a dead weight weapon for their off hand.

depends, the defensive capacities more than well makes up for its lack of offense, which does need a buff and soon. There is no dead weight with rapier, unless ur just bad then ok theres that, but the breath time u get with reposte, plus a small aoe stun with rend, plus fleche and evades extra I frame, u literally can get out of any situation. only builds I can see this not working on is ice gauntlet and void gauntlet as those arent really good at being their own weapon. besides that, it can literally double ur survivability in just about any other build.

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DEX + INT scaling means you get literally nothing offensively if you aren’t exclusively a ranger or mage.

Three major build paths (CON / STR / FOC) have zero offensive capabilities with the weapon. I mean healers run it because they have zero viable offensive tools to use. Might as well use the poking stick to flee from opponents.

Healers/Tanks/Bruisers aren’t going to pump respectable DPS numbers into someone enough to force them to back off for a hot minute using the weapon. Running 5 stats on a weapon is pretty troll.

I said defensive capabilities, which is the issue. bruisers pumping dmg is irrelevant when my issue is that they wont die if they have a rapier. im not saying theyll be super high dmg gladiators, im saying that they will be a hell of a lot harder to kill.

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I think reworking riposte would not be a bad idea, but let’s face it: if they, Amazon Games, decide to “nerf” the rapier, then a lot of healers would probably switch to the Hatchet. The Social Distance ability is a great escape tool after the patch and together with Defy Death and Berserk it turns the Hatchet into a solid secondary, defensive weapon. So they must then nerf the Hatchet because it is clearly too strong. After the Hatchet nerf, a lot of healers might see the merit in running Spear as their 2nd weapon, so then the spear would need a nerf…

I don’t think there is a solution that would truly satisfy the crowd that shouts “Nerf Lifestaff FFS.” I mean, they probably just want to see healers face down in the mud, dead and beaten :smiley:

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it would still be an improvement to rapier. Defy death would be annoying but it can’t be used basically every encounter like riposte or fleche + evade

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I think this just clearly shows that healers have no defensive options from the life staff alone, which is why everyone uses a rapier to survive. GA has charge, FS has burnout, WH and IG have CC etc etc. VG has scream which is still short from a defence perspective, but that’s an ability that is used offensively as well so it needs to be balanced.

If healers have no survivability then what exactly is the point of them?

they can self heal and self sacred