Nerf bb or every melee will leave

Trust me we will be slotting them

You don’t think people will slot a high damage AoE nuke?

FS is already a ā€˜high damage AoE nuke’ if you wanna call it that

we needed range, utility and faster burnout. thats all

we got none of that.

Why would FS need utility? Its job is do damage. If you want utility you have, IG/VG/BB to choose from. Confused why mages think FS should do the ranged AOE damage it does as well as utility all in one weapon lmfao.

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THIS :point_up:

BB certainly has a ton of dmg, but as a PvE player there is something I don’t quite understand. If people are dying to fire BB, why aren’t you using aversion and gems to mitigate?
Also, the bombs aren’t exactly hard to see coming either. BB is very predictable

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In a 1v1 setting sure it’s easy to avoid. In larger scale combat it becomes much harder

Ok, I can see that, but folks are talking about one shot combos. I don’t see a BB successfully performing that in large scale battle and getting away unscathed

Basically all they got in the zerg poking zerg fights is cluster bomb, and while it’s strong, it’s CD is proportional
And there are plenty of ways to remove debuffs

Ya so there is this weird thing with EU players who think BB is only for one shotting in LA, while it’s become Meta in the US servers in medium for awhile now.

I’ve seen BB/IG users who deal consistent 1-1.5 mil damage with it in wars, in medium. It will suffer from the fort changes, but almost every build will as well. With pretty much every other weapon being nerfed aside from BB it will naturally feel stronger next patch then it currently is

Bb is a little to much not matter what

Now the real question is if that aoe dmg in wars actually did anything or was it just padding. That’s how FS kept getting nerfed, even though it didn’t need all of em.

BB certainly needs something to balance it out, but I don’t think a straight % dmg nerf is the way to go

A good BB isn’t padding, it’s playing support for its group. Between Plagued Grenades and Bile Bomb it can be part of melting clumps.

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See, I forgot about plague grenades, last time I did any real pvp (wars or otherwise) the only disease was on infected throw lol

BB got indirect netf. 50% fortfiy that now does mitigate 50% dmg on light armor, will mitigate like 9% dmg ±

I think I actually hate bb more than greatsword it’s 1a and 1b for me. Everyone been swapping to bb on live, kill squad bbs. To much. They have the most oppressive cc in the game in net shot a 7 sec slow with a 57 exhaust? Ok… even with freedoms it will take a couple seconds off and that can be countered by a cripple ring or armor. But still a 50 percent slow lasting that long? Cyclic line on spear is the only other 50 percent cc and that last 3 seconds… and the bb has a massive exhaust to boot? Like my good ags… why can’t you put it in line with cyclone slow… Oh and it’s get a 20 percent cd through tree and an ult that can reduce it by 50 percent. Making it a spamable skill. AND ITS SUPPER EASY TO LAND. Nothing better than 2 bbs net shot spamming you and you can’t play the damn game, sht even 1 net shot spammer bad od. Nothing annoys me more than not being able to move In this game… also you can’t even get close to them because the burst dmg is unreal comparable to that 1 shot ice spike sht from a year ago. We are literally going to be in that vg/ig meta from a year ago when everyone started leaving except it’s going to be blunderbuss running wild.

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That very well may be just what it needs, since it definitely has too much survivability for it’s output. Im looking forward to see how the fort changes will work out when it goes live.

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Ya in LA most builds are going to be dead though, will be severely outclassed by medium versions of the same builds in smaller scale PvP.

Time will tell if they will be viable in larger scale PvP.

Ya know, it’s kinda funny that a fairly clear solution to roaming gangs of BBs would be the true range users(bow/musket) and in this upcoming patch they are nerfing the medium range viability of one of em.

Groups make for easy targets after all

I mean I don’t mind range nerfs. Think they were needed. But to not hit other range weapons like bb and fs. Makes no sense.