Fair enough, having played bow in a few wars myself i also think something like poison shot should apply disease but not for the full duration as poison.
Even i think 20s is a liittle too long but thats another topic.
At the moment shooting poison into the healers SG is a form of area denial and the healer might be reluctant to stand in it.
The same with storm when placed ontop of an SG.
If you stood in both, you’re more likely to notice the damage than the healing because the visual ques of red numbers and white haze raises your GTFO alarms. Like the PTSD of seeing ice shower and walking around it even if its friendly.
If poison shot affected the SGs effectiveness, one can consider that a counter.
I consider cast time a counter window. If i was planning to self cast DE on myself then im surely in trouble and near death. Current patch i hold pen shot for that animation and interrupt it.
If i had a spear, well, use any of its wide array of interruptions.
Infact in opr today i tested standing in my SG and beacon and orb, and two bows were enough to make me need pots
well i can look at your build for bow and see why your not doing damage right now, rain of arrows and poison off set the tick of healing. So you could have deleted most of them after with a quick heavy then followed with pen.
Khanzy, you already know but:
that’s a War clip.
He’s getting shot by coordinated multiple Bows.
Not what our concerns are about.
Player missed i-Frames and started casting too late.
Didn’t wanna waste Potions either apparently.
Must be below average, no disrespect.
Anyway, this discussion is about small scale PVP.
Like Open World where VG Healers kill anyone without massive CC despite obviously lower skill.
Or like 3v3 Arenas and partially OPR.
There the issue persists, Life Staff’s (self-)healing output is beyond broken.
Which makes it more valid evidence than OPR with artificially padded fortify exclusive to the PVPVE casual game mode.
He’s getting shot by coordinated multiple Bows.
Sounds like the healer ain’t so immortal after all.
Not what our concerns are about.
What are you concerns about, then, not getting to 1v1 healers and get guaranteed kills simply by persisting with attacks? This showcases that you have no issues actually bursting healers.
Player missed i-Frames and started casting too late.
Players are not even in render distance firing at him. Clearly didn’t know how much damage was about to come in. Not an argument.
Anyway, this discussion is about small scale PVP
That is clearly a small engagement. The encounter is still valid.
Like Open World where VG Healers kill anyone without massive CC despite obviously lower skill.
Or like 3v3 Arenas and partially OPR.
If you get killed by VG on focus scaling you’re actually ass. lmao.
There the issue persists, Life Staff’s (self-)healing output is beyond broken.
Then how come the healer didn’t tank those few bows using basic attacks on him?
Data available, no nerfs. Data available, bow nerfs.
You wanna talk about desperate how about necrobumping threads that are like 20 days old to get as many of those anti healer threads on the front page at once. Desperate tactics. And they’re all from the same few lads lol.
What? i didn’t do that, all i’m doing is comenting in the new ones and the most recent ones that are showing in my screen. Its not like i’m looking at dates or something, why should i?
Bow can be nerfed even further for all i care, since i played it when it was way weaker than this and still could be effective. Doesn’t change the fact that lifestaff will also be nerfed.
I don’t follow, you think that bow being nerfed or not has anything to do with this?
Oh I tell you the counters you don’t wanna hear it though. Just want -50% healing so you can turn your brain off and flamethrower healers to death because how dare they sustain against that.
50% is a little bit too much in my opnion, i suggested the same debuff heavy had, but honestly light has what? 30% now? probably -10 would actually be enought to balance self healing, i don’t know.
As i said, healing others can even get buffed, just self sustaining for this ammount is not healthy.
I never really liked Flamethrower cause I prefer having to aim.
Besides no fire mage is naive enough to fight a Healer close range in his Sacred Ground with lots of buffs up.
A skilled Healer kills you fast with Void Gauntlet while outhealing all damage done to him.