Nerf Self Heals to Balance PVP

Not really, it should be even higher but healer shouldn’t self sustain this much otherwise what is the porpuse of a tankier build anyway? Healers heal and they have mobility with their offhand, this ammount of self healing is just breaking the game.

I highly recommend to go watch any high skilled healer vod or streams of a war. Even with self healing at its current stage a healer can have a very hard time keeping himself up. Definitely in a highly competitive high skill environment.

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i’ll not do that (once again) because as i said multiple times wars aren’t the problem because healers wont self heal as much, and even if they did, the game doesn’t make it so you actually have to kill a particular healer healing himself to win the war, since its a capture point based mode.

It’s also more organized, unlike small scale and outpost.

Tankier builds are so you have more health and armor… so you take less damage and have more health… you also have increased incoming healing as a “tank”. The new meta is stacking heavy BB/IG where they stack fortifies and spew out healing debuffs onto points. Literal tanks.

By killing others with 6 offensive spells before they themselves die? LMAO. :clown_face:

So youre upset over small scale unorganized pvp? You dont make changes to the game based off that. That is how you make chabges that break the game entirely…

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I’m sorry to say but you’re simply wrong. what you’re saying is if i’m in a 2v2 with no healer i shouldn’t have at least a fighting chance or the chance of killing the healer when he has a bruiser with shirking fortification with him?

Because we all know that bruiser won’t die unless the healer is dead. and if the healer cannot die due to self sustain i have yet to understand why this 2v2 is so unbalanced just because of your existance, and how could that be called balanced?

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In a 2v2 you and your bud should kill that healer. Thats a skill issue.

are you sure? bow just got nerfed for outpost complaints, healers are even worst in outpost, arenas and small scale, so i beg to differ.

The devs themselves said bow was just overperfoming in outpost and it is the third weakest weapon in arena, this didn’t stop the nerf either.

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As i said, i’ll take my videos against your personal belief any day, can say the same about you tho, if you think you won’t be able to stay alive with less self sustain perhaps that’s a skill issue.

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Bow is reworked and they know they screwed up with it. Projectile was literal biggest in the game by over double the size of the next.

Yeah and it was overperfoming just on outpost, as they have stated, didn’t stop the nerf either.

Lifestaff recieved an indirect rework due to the removal of oblivion from the game. Before that healing was actually fine and balanced.

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Come to Valhalla or CoS. Come learn a thing or two. I will give you a free lesson on how to git gud.

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I don’t respond to ad hominen arguments, nor personal beliefs thanks tho!

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No actually my argument is from someone who actually plays the class and knows that what you’re spouting is horseshit. I have had to deal with the repercussions of your whining bleeding over into the pve portion of the game. Completely changing the way we as a class have to play the game every month or so but nothing that is done ever satisfies you.

Also, all arguments come from personal beliefs there bud. That’s why you argue something, as it’s something you believe in.

What weapons do you use? I’ll bet it’s quite unbalanced as well. I don’t have any CCs with my weapon, nor any real damage output…I bet you do…how about that hatchet you got there buddy? Defy death and bezerk heals not enough immortality there? Please spare me the your weapon’s unbalanced routine.

The nerf to the healing in heavy completely destroyed the use of the armor for this class yes, but it also hurt all classes other than tanks. Which is what I said earlier.

If I use my offhand you complain it’s too powerful and get it nerfed as well. Just like the last 4 patches or so where they nerfed VG again and again. Rapier? Zomg nerf rapier I can’t kill the healers…you were saying?

Oh thank you for letting me know what my class should and shouldn’t be. I really don’t know where you get off honestly. Claiming that people’s perspectives are invalid just because they are playing the very class you’re talking about nerfing. Your own bias is what’s driving your argument here and so by your own logic is also invalid.

Healers in this game are continuously nerfed and you still complain. Ever hear the saying that if everyone around you is a jerk, maybe it’s not them? Maybe it’s you? Have you ever thought that perhaps healers aren’t the problem? Maybe, just maybe it’s you.

Also all of this doesn’t matter anyway. AGS is already nerfing healing again with this patch and will continue to kiss the ring of the vocal minority pvp crowd in this game until it drives all of the pvers away. I personally know many people who played heals have either stopped and went dps or left the game altogether. As I said above, keep it up and you’ll have no one to heal you then you’ll be singing a different tune…but hey with hatchets and trenchant crit axes, pots, incense, etc who needs healers right?

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Yeah man, i’m really afraid. But hey good thing this isn’t a street fight and actually is a debate beetween ideas right? i mean real ideias and facts, not personal beliefs.

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All i do is spit facts. Your “ideas” are personal opinions. Get off your tiny non skilled server and join some big boys and you can learn some things about pvp.

Yeah, i know, that’s why a thing called biased was defined long ago.

I’m sorry thats pretty impossible, you either run RAPIER, IG, VOIDGAUNTLED orHAMMER they all have ccs, this is a game you play with 2 weapons, not one. the soon you realize that the better.

You can nerf all the weapons for all i care, still doesn’t make lifestaff balanced, self sustain and outlasting a tank has to go.

Completely balanced it when we talk about self sustain, healing others should be higher tho.

Innacurate and a lie, since offhands are on the table for everyone, self heals are up only for lifestaff.

Okay, so i want flamethrower to silence people, bow to kill people in one shot, gravity well for keep people out of the game for 2 minutes, hammer to actually have a ranged atack that can kill in one shot, musket to have a bayonet that kill all melee in one hit, LIFESTAFF TO SELF SUSTAIN 2 DPS AND KEEP 4 OTHERS ALIVE IF LEFT ALONE, do you see where i’m going?

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i’m so sad you feel that way, this a discussion about balance i’ll not atack you, nor try to measure your personal skill, thanks for the feedback tho!

I did post some videos about what i’m talking, but well if you don’t see it maybe someone from the balance team will, we’ll have to see.

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It’s a sacrifice he’s willing for others to make.

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