As a bow main since Alpha 1 the stupid jump bug/exploit needs gotten rid of.
The bow is in a good place damage wise other than that nonsense. It takes decent skill to be an effective bow user, our damage should reflect that.
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Sounds like hypocrisy. If thatās the case, then I want to 2-shot bow users too. Some weapons canāt even catch bow users!
If I could do Bow damage, I would love my Weapons to get increased difficult as well. Really makes me want to lev Bow. Actually Iām just gonna go lev Bow right now lol
An effective bow user is basically a glass cannonā¦if weāre caught, weāre dead in 2/4 hits depending on weapon. Great Axe still shreds us, as do mages if weāre stunned/locked down. Every weapon combo/build has itās counter. Bow just excels at damage from ranged, as it shouldā¦
Thatās how it should be, buuuut bows are slippery af! And you keep ignoring that catching Bows in open field is impossible for some weapons. Wonder whyā¦
Edit: and you know, in some games like eso/aion, melees have options to slow range attackers when getting hit. This game has none of that.
So, in your logic, bow users should be stationary, never allowed to dodge away from melee coming to pummel them?
Get real.
How does it feel to get misinterpreted?
You get serious here. You said bow users are difficult and should have damage. I said, sure, I want that too! Then you switched your rethoric to ābut we are glass cannons!ā Oh, noo~ and I replied with, sure, but some weapons canāt even catch you nor slow you down like other games.
And then your next move was getting emotional. How does doing that convinces me of anything? It did the opposite. Now, I have to oppose you more strongly.
Hahahaha Jesus. Another usless thread. Nerf everything.
My dude, chill. I was responding to things YOU said. My logic and experience are the same. Effective bow users have to be decently SKILLED to be good. Thereās no hit scan for bow. Also an effective bow user is a a glass cannon. High damage/low health. Not sure where youāre getting all hot and bothered from.
We should hit hard because the weapon is one of the highest skill caps in the game. I also said the nonsense of the jump bug needs to be fixed.
Anything else I can clear up for you?
you literally misinterpreting me? Can you not be so disingenuous/gaslighting? Jeshhā¦
yeah sure, but:
1; you keep ignoring that I said I wanted that too.
2; your skill cap may be highest but also your damage output literally makes unfair gameplay. Like imagine thereās another weapon in game that is 2 times harder than Bow but does 3 times the damage. Would you like that? If you do, then I want to play that weapon too.
Notice how Iām not opposing that because I agree with it. I guess you needed me to say itā¦
Please do and add clips 
Iād love to see you hit heavy armor users for as much as being claimedā¦ Even hit them at allā¦ The bow is not easy to use.
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When you canāt have a fair fight with a bow user, what is the point of fighting? If you hit me, I want to be able to hit you in some way or at least have a chance to run away or chase you properly. Not to die like an idiot because you have skills to play the game and every other weapon user is brainless.
Itās honestly so bad that you canāt catch and hit a bow user with 3 people. Yeah, I donāt know how to play the game.
Mages are powerful, true. GA is also powerful, true. Hammer is OP as hell, true. But you have some sort of chance to play against them at least. Iām not saying any other weapon is not OP. My point is, you donāt even have a chance to do anything against bow users and even some musketeers that hit headshots over 1km.
How convenient. Asking normal people who never record their game that -_- Do we ask you guys videos for everything you say? Would you even believe videos that can be edited?
Itās fair if you donāt believe me. We donāt believe you guys either. We see Bow users desperately trying to defend their OP weapon. And you guys arenāt even interested in reason. You just want us to accept what you are saying which is contrary to our experience. GL in life.
Right now as a 350 dex 100 con bow, standard build, in OPR I hit lights at max for like 4.5k (Penetrating shot with a headshot) and heavies for like 2k maximum if not less. That is quite hard to hit as heavies these days spam dodge, so I have to actually hit first (not as easy as people think) and then itās 50/50 to actually hit as theyād be dodging.
Normal uncharged hits on heavy are like 700-900 damage max.
Sounds reasonable. I could be wrong. Still, any idea how a Bow user would hit harder than that?
Either way, Bow does pump out crazy dpsā¦
Whilst I main bow Iāve had a pretty good go playing everything. Iām an advocate for balance and believe we are closer to it than these forums would have you believe. Or at least as theyād have you believe if you proceed upon the theory that each has merit.
My thread below:
I donāt like to complain about other weapons tbh. Without trying to be insultingā¦ I find there are 2 types of people when it comes to encountering a problem. Those who internalise the problem, it becomes their problem and they individually want to overcome it. Secondly there are those who broadcast it and want someone to fix it for them. I have always been the formerā¦ I find nerf threads for every aspect of this game incredibly frustrating.
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Sure. Iāll add that we can only get ābalanced enoughā rather then complete balance and we have pretty good balance. But not as much as other games like GW2. NW lacks options and build diversity and counters. Skill trees are too linearā¦
Sounds like putting people into arbitrary convenient boxes disregarding context or intent. Pass.
Same. Iām sick of it. Specially since they Nerfed Life Staff (my previous build) into a clunky mess hardly enjoyable instead of fixing more fundamental problems of the armor system which only happens in NW.
However, keep your Bias in Check if you play Bow cuz it does sound like bow users are trying to convince us that their weapon is alright and actually needs a buff! Or an opposition to stop further Nerfs. But I really do see Bow doing a TON of damage. It aināt normal compared to other weapons.
In my case, since people have trouble understanding me after repeating it so many times -_- instead of advocating for Nerfs, I rather have Devs buff other classes or give us Mechanics that makes the class do more with higher skill cap like Bow. Like, I want to hit 14k damage too with my hammer. Donāt care if I have to play a jumping puzzle mid-fight.
Bow does great damage against light armor, good damage against medium armor, and itās a waste of time against heavy. It is working as intended.
Yup. Thatās why every Bow user runs away and leaves me alone when they notice Iām on Heavy armor.
Hyperbole ftw~
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