people can be at the top of at least 3 of the “pvp” leaderboards without ever even engaging with another player…
“pvp”…
let that sink in…
these leaderboards dont have a single pvp related tab lmao…
Amen
If it resets weekly it shouldn’t matter
Those who have lower gear score can make it a goal each week to make their gear and play more competitive to achieve a top 10 spot
Speak for yourself as someone who’s been top leaderboards in 4 games I’m hyped for this
Sure it’s not perfect but they gotta throw something at the wall and see if it sticks
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buddy…the point of a LEADERBOARD is to rank player ability
THESE ones wont…in any way shape or form since none fo them reflect mmo pvp relevant factors…literaly none…
AND, you can actualy top 3 of them without ever engaging in pvp…so how is THAT part of a PVP leaderboard?
its not pvp exclusive leaderboards and ok so how should pvp be tracked? what defines a top rated pvp player? wins (absolutely not lol) dmg? kills?
i mean its all there
player ability in mmos can not be tracked by any of the ridiculous tabs inthe pvp leaderboard…
youc an check any of the very few mmos that actualy had a competitive scene and you will see how good players are tracked…there is ONLY one way, ranked pvp…period.
you need cross server for a bigger player base, you need diferent maps for smaller teams (10 player tops) if opr and not arena, you need a separate ranked premade queue (since solo ranked online will ALWAYS be a lotery …),finally you need a working decent MMr system.
THAT is the only way people will continously play agaisnt better players until the mmrtanks, when it does, at that moment in time, THAT is your skill ranked compared to the rest of the playerbase.
If you ever watched any internation torunaments or world cham torunaments for other mmos you will see that NO ONE ever mentions damage taken, dps, k/d or score, because thsoe dont matter since thsi is not an FPS and people play diferent classes with diferent roles that synergeticaly interact diferently depending on team comp, for example, a team composition that focus on cc chain into burst windows will ALWAYS do less overall damage then a team composition that dampens/leeches, comparing both teams/players overall damage to evaluate skill would simply be dumb and irrelevant.THOSE are PVE metrics, period.
(lets not mention the non pvp related ones present IN the pvp leaderboard…like npc kills(lol)
again, not a single one of those in the pvp leaderboard will be a showcase of player ability/skill…unless you see a healer toping the damage done or K/ds for example (wich you wont…) and it still would be the guy wasnt playing properly.
the only way to measure player pvp skill in an mmo its placing them within a ranked ladder agaisnt similar skll level players and see where they end up.
TLDR but yeah ranked mode would be great I imagine they’re going to implement that
But aside from that I don’t think it really measures who the “best” is
I was #3 in the world on division for kills on console and obviously that doesn’t mean I’m the best player to ever play the game
But also kinda it’s worth have leadboards on and why not give cosmetic rewards it’s fun
For ranked they should implement a solo que playlist and a premades playlist
SEPARATELY
Lost ark couldn’t figure this out but I blame smilegate
And pvp is dead there now
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Solo ranked queue has been a debate for years now in mmos…
here is the thing, you cant RANK luck…and LUCK would a giant(if not the biggest) factor in ranked solo queue, because, contrary to fps games, in mmos, in a 3v3…6v6…10 v10…setting , 1 player , WONT carry the team, while the opposite CAN happen (one player throwing the game for the team), therefore you would also need to eb lucky in terms of whom you got queued with.
“oh but good players adapt…” thats a bs argument, you can actualy have jsut won the world championship for that mmo, if your team has a player throwing the game agaisnt a decent team there is nothign you can do about it because in mmo pvp in a ranked setting you rely ALOT on your team m8s.
BUT…i would much rather have a solo ranked queue then nothing…or then these leaderboards
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It’s a start. I like it. Just hope they keep working on it, keep it fresh.
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yes…lets settle for mediocrity…its nto liek that has been the “level” of service from ags sicne lauch…
Over a large enough sample size luck gets ruled out
If it takes someone at best 100 games to reach the highest rank granted them win majority of those games
It is viable lost ark did it
The same players were able to hit grandmaster every season in different regions because they were… b e t t e r
Agreed
Item-Duping, Exploiting leaderboards…
not like the Game already died and the Legacy server went on Lifesupport for it.
Great idea… KEKW
Nice more reason to farm kill and ignore objective in OPR
its this kind of fanboyism that allows ags to continously provide such an amateur level of develpment, gamers need to DEMAND more in terms of quality…not settle for less…SPECIALLY in a market with over 2 decades of development like the mmo market.
Yea we all see this issue dunno what AGS is thinking by giving a k/d leaderboards and not a capture/defense score one.
There’s not a single game that measures performance by “captures”
Nobody cares how well you play obj
There needs to be ranked modes or at least 3v3 or smaller scale than 20 v 20 to measure people’s “carry potential”
That’s how’s you measure the best players
Yea who would give importance to objetives in a objetive based game mode like OPR is? I’m crazy i guess.
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How about gathering leaderboards, you know who mines,skins,chops etc oh wait the leaderboards would be filled with BOT NAMES.
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