At this point I would prefer to have the boosters if they’re going to make me grind this boring AF content.
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Yes.
It’s at least 1/50th.
I’ve got ZERO items that I could use for myself. ZERO…
So 1/50th could be an understatement. It’s next to impossible… You’re not going to loot gear that’s remotely comparable to crafted.
I hope you are trolling the bots…
Plot twist…
These are the people that hate the change and staged it to look like they were bots…
What a joke that we will now be paying gold to create the Gypsum in order to upgrade WaterMark.
100 - 475 gold a craft for a minor upgrade to Watermark on something your probs not gonna use? (was my understanding) Without it your gear scales down… and a salvage worth 3g ? assume its Bind on Pickup too.
You make a great point regarding cash shop for exp related boosts because of the change to crafting exp and being rewarded gypsum when leveling “past 200”.
Worrying… to say the least
The copium is strong with this one
Crafting is NOT a “pain free path to the best equipment” what on earth are you on about?
I keep reading this on the forum, and it’s just sheer ignorance of game mechanics. Crafting 600GS is not at all trivial. Just like with HWM grinding your grind starts at 500…same for crafting, once you get your crafting to 200 skill the items you make are closer to 500GS, and to get them from 500 up to 600 is where most of the work takes place.
To get perfect 600GS rolls (ignoring the fact that attributes, and perks are RNG and often roll badly anyway) you need to own 3 houses, each house needs to have a max level trophy for that particular kind of craft, those trophies take extremely rare item drops from high level end game areas and require 200 furnishing to craft. You need a full set of crafting gear which all has the right perks to give +crafting GS, you need to get recipes for the best +GS food and making that food requires rare ingredients. You need to use all the best materials in all the category of mats the item uses which are such rare drops that if you want to farm them you also need to make full sets of +luck gathering gear, the highest quality tools with +luck and also +luck food which again needs all the recipes that are rare drops and expensive/rare ingredients. Then you need to grind high level areas for hours to get just a few of those rare drops and now more than ever if you want to keep up with other people in these zones you need PvP turned on and have to fight over the resources because of that extra luck boost.
Then after all that you throw in a bunch of azoth into each craft which itself needs to be grinded if you want to make a bunch of high end gear, and often you also need to ferry those materials to settlements that have the right active +GS buffs for crafting. Then you also need to go and farm mods for the crafts, if you want to improve your chance at 1 good perk or the right attributes you can fix in place 1 of these in place, and often the best mods come as rare drops, like extra pockes on a bag are in high demand so you need sliver of adderstone which is a rare drop from mining literally thousands of stone.
Then you throw all that into a craft and finally craft something, only to find of the 4 RNG elements (attributes + 3 perks) you end up getting 1 good one (the one you fixed with a mod) but the other 3 are trash. So you have to repeat that whole process of getting all the materials you need.
Comments like yours are so far off the mark that it’s obvious you have literally no idea how high level crafting works. The idea that any of that is painless is not just wrong but it’s the opposite of the truth, it’s actually pretty painful just doing something like getting furnshing to 200 which most people who have done this mostly got there because entire company/guilds chipped in resources to 1 guy and only they can make the top tier trophies. it’s so ignorant and so stupid it’s actually hard to know where to begin. It’s absolutely enfuriating when people like you make glib comments about how easy crafters have it. I keep seeing these types of comments on the forums, that somehow grinding HWM chests which is mostly done in large raids where 95% of the players are just running past the mobs looting the chests is doing gods work. Yet the crafters are “sitting in town crafting”. No like 0.001% of the effort is in the process of crafting and literally hundreds of hours are spent attending to the thigns I’ve mentioned above. And then to trivialize that as somehow pain free is completely and utterly demented.
I wish people like you would educate yourself properly on the game mechanics so you have some ability to empathise with your fellow players and why they might be mad that they grided all this stuff with the understanding it was a valid route to 600GS gear, only to have that all downgraded in a single patch and be told “haha now you to go and grind again, but now it’s 10x harder and time gated”
Holy actual ****
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That it’s infinitely easier then the other option.
I feel like thats what they’re trying to balance.
First of all: grinding thru chests runs and elite mobs were WAY easier than increase crafting or trying to get 600gs crafted. I dont know where did you take from that increase crafting and making 600gs are easier than chest runs and elite mobs.
I think AGS is been pretty clear where they want this game to go. And I’m betting in january or february we will see exactly what those changes implied.
And seem how they dont want people to get max hwm. I’m starting to doubt the ‘bug’ on chests from endgame dungeons were accidental. Or those ‘bugs’ on chests runs after 1.1.
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I disagree. The crafting grind is enormous. It doesn’t just end at getting 200. Most crafting pieces end up just as junky RNG as the box drops. Then there is a huge cost of gold on top of it.
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Yet it’s still easier then looting good gear…
See the point… Maybe it was hard to you, but try getting good gear the other way…
I tried… said F-It and did Arcana and Armoring. Did both of them in about a week.
Getting the crafting skill isn’t hard… Saving for legendary mats is time consuming, but still faster then trying to loot a remotely decent piece of gear.
It’s not viable to try to loot your gear… so instead of giving everyone else gear which would be detrimental to crafters… they just made it so crafters and people who just happen to obtain the gold a time sink too…
Nobody likes getting Nerf’d but thats all this is… It’s just a nerf…
I never said it was hard. I said it was time consuming. IMO more time consuming than raising WM. I disagree you easily get better loot out of it. On top of that it doesn’t even raise WM. By all means just craft away if that’s what you think though.
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WHEN IS THE PATCH BEING RELEASED?? THE WEEL orr the next
No it’s actually not and you don’t understand that because it’s painfully and transparently obvious you’ve done none of what I explained above, otherwise you’d know full well that what you’re saying is complete and total nonsense. The problem is that you’re not aware of your own ignorance on the topic, if you truly care to find out then I suggest you go and try and craft some 600GS gear. You might not care to find out which is fair enough, but until you adjust your perspective on this, all this false nonsense you’re spewing on the forum is making you look ignorant and uninformed.
Yeah and again this is just betraying your own ignorance on the topic. You’d actually know if you’d read my previous comment (which I know you didn’t do because you replied to a long post with a 1 line reply almost instantly after I posted it) you’d know full well that getting something to 200 is almost none of the total amount of work, that allows you to craft 500GS stuff…we’re talking about 600GS or as close to it as possible.
But instead of educating yourself about the lengths you have to go to in order to do that, you skipped reading the post and just replied with more ignorant and uninformed nonsense.
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All these whiners are going to make this change so much more fulfilling.
None of them cared when other people are nerf’d … It finally catches up to them and the waterworks start flowing… haha
Look, It was OP… You should have to do something besides buy gear, or craft it to be good at using it… Stop pretending… Nobody believes you… We all know it to be true…
You took the easy way, maybe you didn’t know it would be in the beginning, but the tallest nail gets hammered down first. It’s your turn.
I knew you’d show your true colours once I’d pushed you into a corner on the facts.
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My true colors?
I’ve been saying this for 30 posts…
People who ended up taking the far easier path intentionally or incidentally need to be balanced… PERIOD…
Not just is it easier, it is also the same path someone would take if they looted a company treasury, or plundered a town treasury, or RMT… So I’m LOVING these changes… LOVING it…
It fixes so much of the problems in this game.
I also love that you think you pushed me into a corner with your opinion.
You’re idea of a fact is your opinion…
Yeah, I think many of us suspected that you revel in the fact that this has negatively impacted a lot of other players, and you hid behind a facade of pretending that somehow crafting is easy and trivial and HWM grinding is hard or takes longer.
Once I corrected you on this with examples from the game you abandoned the facade completely and just clung to the fact that you’re gleeful it nerfs other players who were engaging with mechanics designed as a way to gear for end game. So you kinda dropped the excuse and now there’s nothing but your reprehensible character and delight in other peoples misfortune. It’s actually kind of gross, but also sadly predictable.
The facts above are not my opinion, they are demonstrable steps you need to take in order to craft 600GS items, you can’t just have 200 skill and craft 600GS items, there’s more effort required than you’re portraying. They are facts that anyone can independently confirm. Not only did I corner you on those facts, you’re now aggressively back peddling because you know you’re wrong.
I even gave you an out with this, I was like, if you’re ignorant you could always go and try this yourself so you understand why you’re wrong and would be able to emapthise better with other people. But you shot that down straight away and now look where you are.
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Doesn’t change the fact that the path to 600gs is far easier via crafting. It’s pretty much the only way, and for a non-crafter to get to where a crafter get’s to isn’t even remotely similar in time… Like in a magnitude of like 10x harder at least.
You never corrected me because you’re WRONG.
I never said that all you need to do was get 200 crafting and you’re caught up…
YOU SAID THAT because that’s the strawman you need to make.
I say, and have said that the two paths are not REMOTELY similar in viability Not even CLOSE.
This balances that… And YES I love when they make the right decision to correct massive oversites.
Why would I empathize with someone who got a far far better deal then most other people? I mean that’s the whole point… You should empathize with the people that didn’t buy gear, who didn’t RMT, who didn’t loot their company, who didn’t loot the town Treasury.
These fixes eliminate peoples ability to guys buy your way to the top…
Does it negatively effect people… It does… Very few people like getting nerf’d… SPECIALLY the people who thought they could just buy their way to the top… Those people it hit the hardest and rightfully so.
I know your hurting right now…
Because you’re such an #)())& I like that…
If you wanted empathy don’t be a D!%.
That’s just wrong, for all the reasons above, that you’ve deliberately avoided addressing.
I knew you’d abandon the facade of arguing the details and making an argument. That’s what I’ve come to learn from people like you, the facade is always really shallow, and you just need the tiniest of little gentle pushes back on your nonsense and you abandon it immediately. And once they’ve become indefensible you simply revert to trolling about how happy other peoples misfortune makes you, which is you showing your true colours. You’re too immature to know that people get what you’re doing here.
Nice try. I never said you said it, I said you portrayed it that way. We talked about the difficulty of crafting 600GS items and you talked about the triviality of getting to 200 in a trade skill, which if you know anything about crafting (and you don’t) is necessary but nowhere near sufficient to craft a 600GS end game BiS item. Why are you talking about how easy it is to get to 200 when that’s the easy part of crafting, and you’re ignoring everything else? It’s because you were ignorant of the effort it takes to craft those kinds of items. And you unknowingly betrayed that ignorance in front of people who know better.
I’m saying you can’t empathize. Empathy isn’t a choice, it’s something that happens naturally when you understand the struggle that someone else has gone through. You’re completely ignorant of what it takes to craft 600GS items, and you’ve demonstrated that ignorance over and over again. What I said is that if you want to be able to understand why you’re wrong you can just go now and try and craft some 600GS items and see how hard it is, see what kind of grind it takes to get there.
let’s put it this way, 600GS items require highest tier trophies, which require 200 furnishing, and the steam achievements has one for 200 furnishing, and the number of people that have it is so small that steams measure of this (in 0.1% increments) actually rounds this down to 0.0% Steam Community :: New World :: Achievements
Now you’re pivoting to people “buying” their way to the top which has got nothing to do with this discussion. You know you’re on the back foot on this so the next strategy will be to aggressively pivot. Also sadly predictable.
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