I am talking about your constant lies and made up numbers that you then deny.
We can look up the websites that estimate the current players but unless you get the statements from the games thats all you have. So the current estimate of daily FF players is over 3 million.
ESO is estimated to have 370K daily players.
That would put NW between the 2 daily.
If you realize that it had almost five times that number just 5 weeks ago… you see how fast the game has died down. And this trend is ongoing. The game loses 65k primetime players per week right now, which is about 25%. Per week.
Quote from Earlier: "OK there we go again…
If a game has 200k for 12 hours of each day that means that in the worst case it has 200k people playing 12 hours per day…
Thats obviously not the case so this number needs to be multiplied with an 12/ x factor, whee x is the average player hours played per day.
Thats usually somewhere in the territory of 2. SO 200k is actually about 1200k different players.
Now do this with the 900k we had at the start and you’ll get your 6 million for each day.
I don’t understand why people open their mouth without even knowing basic math
Total accounts is a different case and accounts for the game sales which are obviously much higher"
These were my calculations in the other thread.
Don’t get things so seriously:p
Most people certainly do not play FF14 on Steam!
I think the numbers debate is really interesting, because between people bringing up mmo-populations site (which says itself that it is estimated amounts based on social media and not actual data, which they do not have access to) and claiming that games which have their own non-Steam launchers which are used by almost all of the players (most players only use Steam when they have to, generally) nevertheless have Steam player counts that are useful as comparisons … I mean it’s understandable why these are impossible conversations to have, really.
In this game, it’s all transparent. We can see the PCU. That has never been the case before for any MMORPG, because no other game company has unzipped its fly like that before (and likely, after this debacle, never will). You can spin all you like if it makes you feel better, but the PCU count is an excellent proxy for the size of the overall playerbase, and how much it has decreased. It is obviously true that the total number of players is a multiple of the PCU, that’s obvious – but it’s also true that the PCU is a reliable indicator of the overall level of player engagement in the game, because it tracks the logins at any one given time. If the logins across the board in a 24 hour period are lower than the logins across the board in the same 24 hour period a week before, there are simply fewer people logging in, overall. It really isn’t complicated.
As to what the actual playerbase number is (i.e., how many people are still logging in, at all), we don’t know, and everyone can have their view as to what the muiltiple of the PCU it is – but to be honest it’s pretty “out there”, in my opinion, to believe that the multiple is 5x+ of the PCU, such that there are 1-2m players currently, if you count the logins over a week-long period, or something like that (there clearly are not 1-2m people logging in over the course of a day, based on the PCU numbers).
Ah very nice. Never thought that much people pkay it without steam.
Note that its mostly active players x 7.
Applying the same logic to NW gets us above 1 million total players fir the 200k active
That’s total logins so includes steam which so just how little players through it. Same for ESO but I don’t have the effort to find their numbers. FFXIV was enough of an example.
Japanese servers alone have more concurrent and 24 hours peak than NW as a whole.
You want to talk about basic math but then lie about FF being mostly on steam to try and make your claims have validity.
Then you lied about NW having 6 million daily players. I am sorry but your lies make your claims that I dont understand math false. I understand it quite well. I also understand that when you get caught lying multiple times you will not be taken seriously by other people.
That’s 24 hours. Daily logins over all their regions.
Dude I’m having a civilised discussion with all but you . stop yelling
I am not yelling I am pointing out the things you were wrong about and refuse to acknowledge. Maybe try admitting you lied and we can move on from there. It starts with you.
I never lied. I just made a rough estimate and then gave you the math that shows its about 1 million.
I reposted above calm yourself and read again
In another thread you claimed NW has 6 million as a current playerbase and in this thread you claim you never said that. I linked your quote. You lied and now you continue to lie about it. If you cant be honest no one is taking you seriously.
I am perfectly calm and you have been shown to be wrong multiple times because you did no research.
Yes. It was a rough estimate and then I’ve made the calculations and posted it just above you disagree with these?
I would say NW is still getting between 600k and 1.2 million logins a day and as of now the game is appearing to level off in population. Hopefully they merge servers soon so some people are not on servers seeing less than 100 people at peak times. They cant even get a war going there.
Those people are the best, they make a statement being all high and mighty unknowingly shooting themselves in the foot and looking like a total tool haha.
The game is dead.
Lots of people quit do to the hilarious number of bugs in the game.
If you remain you are part of the minority.
Truth hurts… but playing New World hurts more… as this game is so bug filled its more broken than it is working.
Yes that’s true. I was at Tir na nog and we couldn’t get even a single OR most days.
Transfered to Midgard 2 days ago and the game feels like it just released yesterday there.
Things will get better after the merges and will improve with the expansions…
I like being part of minorities. You go ahead and play something popular.
New world is new. It will improve. It has many years ahead of it…
We hope it has many years ahead of it, but AGS has pulled the plug on 2 of the 3 games it has made so far.
Yes I do realize that. I will be happy if it stabilises at 50k and then increase its population with future expansions.
Number decline is pretty standart for MMOs