"oh now bow is op"

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It is hard to see musket players now, all aim bot cheaters become bow users now; because AGS nerfed musket so hard at every patch…

You even cannot run from bow users…

As a legal musket player, I am really sick of AGS’ musket changes to make the weapon worse and not useable at all in pvp and pve now… I cannot get down the HP of anyone even I hit from head with 3k damage… Thy just use pots to remove my dot and drink potions and use buffs etc.

AGS doesn’t know how to make a game really… Thy ruined this high potential game…

Look at the server population and steam charts… This so called most useless 3vs3 PVP Arena supposed to bring old players… Because of unbalance between teams as class, gear, and fighting against OP BIS geared pre-made parties all OPR and 3vs3 PVP Area fights are became no fun anymore… Great Cleave pvp salt farm is only good if your faction is zerg winning side…

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Bow is not OP but its annoying because everyone is running it and the new hitbox is too generous.

A group of bruisers and healers will run over bowmen every time in OPR.

I wish there were more FS and musket players in the range meta but its mostly all bow now.

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was doing a few oprs last night.

im running medium ga/wa and so was about 9 people

against the enemy team that was majority bow.

we kicked there asses every time.

bowper is annoying but this is a game about holding points

and luckily the points are inside a fort and most fresh bow players are too afraid to enter.

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68

The game needs less burst, not more. People are already taking tons of damage and dying faster. They need to adjust how much HP people get from CON as a first step. Sometimes people die before I can even get a Divine Embrace off.

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Yep, exactly this.

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Thats what I have been saying. Melee groups will steamroll range heavy teams. Its happened like that in tons of OPRs. Bows may be annoying because they actually work now but they arent OP. Melee will still dominate.

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Only because of healers. I tested a 20k hp heavy armor tank with ss/vg. I deal 0 dmg but if I have a healer behind me I can tank 15 people. Without a healer I die in seconds.

I tested a medium armor with 300 str/200 con. Spammed some dodges, get a healer and guess what, same result…

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Yeah so? Healers are part of the game. Light armor bow player isnt tanking 15 people no matter how many healers he has.

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Yea, but melee can’t shoot hammers or axes from 50-100m either…

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Yeah, its called having different class types that do different things. Sorry but not everyone is going to be GA/WH/IG anymore and thats a good thing.

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They should just make a different server where everyone can go rapier/ls, rapier/bow, spear/bow, s&s/hatchet, ig/vg, ig/bb and leave the others play the game in peace

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Thats not the way it works. Homogenization of classes is never good. Might as well just make only medium armor and only two weapons… GA and WH. Then everyone would be the same. Its essentially the same thing you just asked for.

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I honestly mostly see mages, the bows really don’t hit their shots.

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so have i in 300/200. 0-1 healer to a team with about 4 healers.

not too much of an issue. will drop a few rankings because of deaths but whatever a win is a win.

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You ignored my DM yesterday. Lol

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i did?

my bad iv been swamped all month and i can barely focus.

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It’s probably my company constantly waging war on purps then yellow companies from Maramma coming in. Lol

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honestly i dont mind.

i like the fact that wars are popping off.

win or lose as long as its not a rofl stomp its all good.

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The rule of thumb is do the opposite of whatever the popular theory is for whats overpowered or underpowered. You’ll find yourself ahead of the curve on the meta almost every single time.

I was screaming from the rooftops that musket was stupidly broken from day 1. Got laughed off the forums every time. Then OPR hit and suddenly musket is the most broken thing in existence with zero changes (a slight nerf actually).

Same thing with spear. Everyone was bitching that it was completely useless until everyone found out that it has god damn near 100% CC uptime and is nigh invincible in 1v1s.
Same with rapier, until people figured out it was hypermobile and dealt shit loads of burst.
Same with warhammer until people figured out it could chain with spear and SS for infinite CC combos.

Et cetera et-fucking-cetera.

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you leave my baby boy out of this.