But one heavy attack takes longer than two ordinary attacks and does less damage than two ordinary attacks, and only really gets good if you stack multiple abilities directly into heavy attack. it’s a great example of stuff looking amazing in internet theorycraft number crunching but not really being very useful in gameplay. Sort of like Coup de Grace in the spear tree.
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No, it alway depends on the situation and they are quite some, where pulling a heavy attack is the better choice. Or as you said, in internet theorycrat number crunching two ordinary attack do twice the damage, but in reality you may not hit the two but the heavy one due to faster speed or you better timing the attack.
Well, just a thought by me regarding that.
bow god out
Well, what I am reading you are not even near to a point to call you that. Instead I see someone exploiting unintended game feature and crying for its removal, due to his inability to play the weapon as it is built. Yet, you ignore and argue with meta. That may make you a good bow players, but won’t make you the best.
With that I am finishing discussing this topic. Bow needs some buffs in some point, but the weapon is still strong, viable and good playable.
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You finished a war and want to use that as a measuring tool of its value? Less then 10% of the population actually do wars. Yes bow shines when you stack 50 monkeys with hammers on top of a point. Please come back when you have real input.
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I was one of those bow mains topping every score you can imagine in a really competitive server. The medium damage made with bow is around 1.3k. Less to heavys more to lights.
I just rerolled to mage and get high tier gear. Im hitting about 10% less per hit with IG FS with almost twice the firerate and I can even cancel basic atacks with fireball or cancel casting animations for the pilar. Still topping scores while also providing massive aoe and CC to the table. Mage is the dominant dps class by far now. The only space where bow is strong enought is dueling and that is 100% irrelevant in game
Glad to hear another bow god chad with the same ideas, I’m tired of reading these mage mains crying about getting heavily outskilled by bows and cry about jumping. Bow will comeback at some point, we will be here again reading more cryier posts about it.
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You clearly don’t pvp and it shows
Don’t get it twisted - I still own on bow, jump or no jump. If you land your shots, its still valuable. but we’re talking about the ADS lock, why tf you bring in heavy shots again.
You arguing for the heavy shot and their “value” shows that you have no clue of bows and how they are used in combat situations, especially vs actually good players.
Again you’re ignoring the point any bow user is trying to make: The ADS lock is breaking the mobility entirely, no other weapon glues you to the ground on your normal attacks like the bow.
Smh keep repeating myself with all these mage mains who suddenly became bow experts,
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Dont worry, just expect more bow nerfs, because all crybabys are outskilled from us, in my server i can find only 2-3 bow playera that can kill me, and couple of mages, really skilled and good, there was 50/50 chance, tested it yeaterday ita like 70/30 to them. So i can expect more bow dmg nerfs. 
thats the AGS, they just listen bots in the game and nerf mobility instead adding for eberybody
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Can I get 4 dodges in my heavy armor as well? What about jumping after hitting you with a sword or Warhammer ?
Did you know that a FS can’t hit you for more than 1k unless you are in light armor and they use a heavy attack?
BTW, they buffed musket by nerfing bow, which is a good thing. Not because there aren’t enough muskets in OPR, but the 900 dmg a musket deals to me compared to 2.8k a bow does is a joke, now they can at least hit you since you are not a rabbit anymore
Bow can’t heavy attack because it has the slowest cooldown in the game so we have to rely on light attacks, mages have over a 2x fire rate then a bow with a larger hit box, bows hit for 700-800 against heavies as well. There’s barely a difference at all in the damage between a bow and fire staff with us being locked out of heavy attacks. Bows are rooted after every shot. Bows require a zoom to have any sort of accuracy. Love when mages complain when they have all of the benefits x2 compared to the bow. Simple conclusion is, if you lost this often to bow players being the most underpowered weapon in the game, your just bad
I beg to differ, I am tank and if you hit tanks for 900 dmg with a bow, your build needs a rework. nothing can hit me harder than a bow with a ranged attack
A fully charged heavy attack headshot does nothing more then 1600 damage to a tank. Just remember players can’t full charge in pvp because it’s the slowest in the game so we’re left with our 800 damage light attacks. Your just trash
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Stop being ignorant and childish, I am not talking about a heavy attack. I am talking about penetrating shot which is an instant skill that does insane damage. The only counter to bow is musket now that they can hit you. You can complain all day about the “nerf” which is actually a fix. Bows are still good, and a bow player can win against any build just by being average. If you think bow needs a buff, maybe it’s not for you ?
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Mages and muskets are hard counters to bows and mages aren’t even supposed to be good in single target combat. And everything is a counter actually we stand no chance fighting if someone gets close. So we have to kite. It’s impossible to hit every shot you take and take someone down before they can catch up to you
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When did i say Bow needs a buff? All i am saying is “INSTEAD OF TAKING MOBILITY OUT, THEY SHOULD ADD FOR EVERYBODY” and bow dont do 2.8k to heavy armor. I dont want to argue for some bullshit… If you are skilled, every build can beat every other one… When i am bored, i go spear/rapier and i nuke bowers again. And musket still do 2-3k on me, and i run Light armor, because med is too OP, ye can do a lot of dodges and combine with rapier is insane. So its not the BOW nerf, they should nerf med armor… Think before you talk shit. If you go with fishing set out, how much expect you bow to hit you for? Go full res + onyx gems, Voala bow do 800 dmg to you and max 1,2k crit. Change your gear, problem is in you, i am full res light armor running 400 dex 100 con 600GS with BIS perks and i dont do 2k to heavy armor
I think your gear, build and everything need rework… Not the bow build. Go make a Video to proof how BOWer hit you for that much dmg with heavy gear ahaha.
I have been in the top pvp guild on the largest West Coast server holding the best territories for months.
it sounds like the rest of your server is just bad lol
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Did you say fire staff hits twice as hard?
What game do you play? Lmfao
For it to even viable, you have to use heavy attacks and run a glass cannon type build. Even then, still outclassed by every other weapon in the game, in terms of dps. All it really has going for it is AOEs and burnout.
yea im not even gonna dignify that with an explanation why and where you went wrong.
ill just leave it at
L2P