Why is pve mandatory then??
Don’t bother. You don’t have a single argument for this. I’ll just continue grinding pve dungeons to upgrade my pvp gear while reading comments like yours. It is pretty funny
The obvious solution here for you people who are totally opposed to PvE in any form (for whatever strange reason) is to make PvP flagging into full loot PvP while leaving PvE out of it.
There’s no need to force anyone to play PvP other than to buff the number of targets for you guys, and I’m not paying money to be game for you weirdos to hunt while Im out doing my hours of gathering.
Full loot pvp when flagged. There you go. There’s your path to gear. kill for it.
When you get killed, yours all drops.
I’d bet real money you rarely see anyone flagged again, and everyone starts running influence at 3am stealthily. All the gear people will drop will be throwaway trash since they dont want to lose some BiS gear.
Its the kind of change you think you want, but I will assure you that the results will differ from what you imagine.
3 Likes
One of those times when “you think you do but you don’t” actually does apply. +1
Or, make it like a PVP hour. Immediately, i thought this would be a good idea to fend off bots.
I have the only argument I need
“… a player will never be required to flag for PvP”
NW Dev Post “PvP Vision & New Features”
Ref: PvP Vision & New Features - News | New World
But I get your point, I’ll be very piss off if I had to do wars or owPvP to get my BiS PvE gear set.
AGS failed to deliver on the “coexist and complement” promise they made by trying to lure pvers into pvp and forcing pvpers into pve for their gear… so, nobody is happy.
4 Likes
Why is this an argument? The fact that devs said there wont be any forced pvp does not mean pve is not forced on pvpers.
How is a quote from a dev an argument on whether there should be one day forced flagging? It just suggests that they wont do it:p
I was replying to the person I quoted in regards of having an argument for forcing people to flag. I never said anything about pve being forced upon pvp players… and to make things clear: No, I think IS NOT ok that pvp gear comes from pve activities, PvP gear should come from PvP activities
Am I misinterpreting the word NEVER? I read that as Devs won’t force pvp on players! NEVER
Sorry, english is not my native language
2 Likes
I know what you mean but im not arguing on if they will do it. I am arguing on if they should do it.
I agree with you that as youve point out they will never force it
Errrr, I just won’t log in that day? The same way you PVPers shouldn’t be forced to do PVE, don’t force PVP on PVEers.
1 Like
Well, the fact that some people want to force pvp doesn’t mean the developer should do it. especially if said developer already stated that they won’t do it.
And, don’t get me wrong… I understand the frustration of those PvP players that bought the game when it was hardcore PvP… I know the frustration of buying/supporting a game for a specific feature/gameplay, just to get slapped in the face by the developer with a game totally different
2 Likes
Agreed, but in all fairness…the major change from a PVP-focused game was implemented LONG before the launch date. The HC PVP crowd could have just bounced and gone to Mortal or EVE Online.
I have a 29mil SP Pilot in EVE. First time in Null Sec I got caught in a gate bubble, blown up and podded. All my cargo (everything I had) was looted. Then the looter whispered to me asking how much he should sell the blueprints he looted from me for. WELCOME TO HARDCORE FULL LOOT PVP! It’s out there if they want it. Have at it, it ain’t for me. I ran back to Carebear space.
2 Likes
Or mortal online 2… which is already out.
I played EvE for three months, when to nullsec looking for that risk vs reward thing they always talk out about… but left the game as soon as find out that is just a gang/politics simulator. And the top on the frosting? Big corps reimburse you like 80-90% of the ship’s cost if you get killed while doing pvp…. man such risk!
Now, I understand this is done so corp members don’t burn out their funds, but let’s be honest… that totally removes the risk…
a specific future zone should be force flagged
A bunch of PvP servers would be better, pvpers would have the whole map to do their thing
1 Like
Nah, IF you are destroyed during a fleet ops or Corp sponsored PVP gang, yes SOME of the bigger corps have reimbursement programs. And getting into those Corps is NOT easy. But if your dallying along minding your business and get destroyed and podded, NOPE, no reimbursement is due. They wouldnt do that, it doesnt serve them. All of the Major corps that were in EVE during my time there (Goonswarm, BOB, etc) did things that benefit them for the most part. I was in a few manufacturing and mining corps, no reimbursement programs but they did do mining ups that provided boosts and had an ore buyback program.
1 Like
maybe next time I’ll try join a smaller lowsec corp.
I am not interested at all in PVP, in fact I am not interested in Gen or Laz or mutations, I like to play solo period, that is just how I like to play. It would be great if they had servers that a single person (me), or dungeon person, or a PVP person could choose, and all get the same end game progression, rewards. And by the way I have over 2000 hours played, so more than 99% of the people out there.
Sounds as dumb as veggie or vegan day.
Goons were famous for basically giving you ships for free regardless whether it was corp activity or not as long as you do the minimum they require you to do every week for them (in addition to ore buyback etc)
Didn’t Goons have a ridiculous “fee” to join them though (like $100 mill Isk?)