@ReddRubicon 1. more. DAY.
Im so excited.
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I’m trying to understand how one Opinion from a Non-Developer is going to make all other players you don’t even know quit.
Does everyone play like you and thus falls into your category of thought?
I am genuinely curious.
I plan on playing my way, not your way. Hope that narrows it down. 
I don’t understand how this happens.
If you and your friends created on the same server months ago (or even at launch), all your characters would’ve been pushed to the same server… so… why can’t y’all play together currently?
There will be no advantages on luck to opening pvp and that’s all.
It is even giving an advantage on leveling. Normally I don’t care about open world PvP but I do care right now just because it gives luck.
I know some mages on Yggdrasil that would probably disagree with you and own melee around every corner. But alas, I digress. Hopefully you find whatever it is you’re looking for in the next game you pick up. Cheers & good luck out there.
Why did you think that open world pvp flagging is only valid for pvp players so you stated it as “a little compensation for what they didn’t do”
I was almost a pure PvE player which that almost comes from there I have never closed my PvP flag after luck changes implemented into it. I did chest runs with my guildies only when they do it so we all flagged for PvP to be safe on passive server times so it gives me some advantages over a full PvE player who never flags for PvP and main income difference comes from rare materials I find than others so it is not really that important where you do obtain your PvP/PvE BiS gear and income from PvP is not about only Territory Holdings.
You are right about crafting income and this PvP flag is all about crafting already. I can find more materials = I can do more crafting; I can find more rare materials = I can sell them as they are or craft something with them in daily/weekly limits to have more income.
Pure PvE server also means that noone neither holds a territory nor there will be wars + taxes. There will be just invasions so you can actually put an invasion cooldown if that happens so more people could join invasions and experience it instead of selective people only can join invasions.
There are some other advantages of pure PvE servers as well but it makes to post longer so i end up here. That’s why some really really but really little PvE community wants a pure PvE server.
Well, all of my information comes from my experience from release to January. I don’t have a clue about changes since then. I’m just a returning player right now who waits for FSS and started playing again on ptr with leveling again from zero for like 2 days ago.
I assume this is a joke. Cause I would very much like to believe that someone who can already read and write, can do better then this, even as a joke is not a very creative one.
But in case its not, it’s not worth talking about it, keep believing that and good luck on ur path and good luck convincing anyone of ur ideas.
For the record, I’m not the one who wants a pure PvE server. I just trying to empathize with one on why they might want it and saying that there are some reasonings behind it like how someone wants a pure PvP server.
So it is not for us to judge it either. You can’t say it is a “stupid” idea to bring it on the game either for PvP or PvE server. It might not worth or anything but it is an insult.
You can image your reactions and insightful thoughts about it but you started it with an insult and commented without any empathy and considered just your own use of it.
Anyways, like it or not it is a feedback and you are not the one who decide to implement. it is AGS after all.
This whole non-sense can be summed up to:
Press U in game you have PvP server.
Dont press U in game you have PvE server.
You like it or not, u believe it or not, matters very little, doesnt change the reality.
It is most ridiculous argument I have seen for server types. no it is not.
When you press U in game, it doesn’t flag everyone for PvP. They want the server for that mostly, they just want to fight over slots etc.
When you don’t press U, it doesn’t unflag everyone for PvP and those guys have all the benefits while you can’t. Simply, if you are on 550 GS and want to farm Void ore with more luck, an 600 GS with PvP flagged guy might not let you farm it. So either you need to farm it unflagged or not simple as that and I really can’t understand how you can’t figure it out.
If i point out ur intellectual capacity based on that response you will say that I am insulting you.
SO we cannot continue the non-sensical argument. The reality is nobody ( and by nobody, i mean not enough people to make it relevant) want PvE or PvP servers. Most of us are happy with the current setup where you have PvE servers by not flagging for PvP and PvP servers by flagging for PvP. Reality does not change just because u want it to especially when you cant even gather 400 signatures.
Cheers. 
lol, I already stated that I don’t want it. I am also happy with how it is implemented and I already have my playstyle around it. Of course I won’t try to gather or be a part of those signatures which I don’t want to. I always play on PvPvE servers on MMOs. I just tried to make you understand those minority who may want it for some ridiculous or valid reasons and yes if you bring arguments like “your intellectual capacity” it is insulting because even if i think like vice-versa that you can’t intellectually capable to understand, or it might be emotionally uncapable, i can’t decide on whichever it may be because simply it seems like you can’t empathize nor understand the points, I didn’t call it loud until now to not be the one who starts insulting and still patiently tried to explain why they may want it but it seems like you can not discuss anything without bold statements.
Cheers aswell.
Its not about understanding each other.
Just because I understand someones idea, or empathise with them, does not change the value of their idea.
The truth is in this game, the most valuable and consistend things you can do are purely PvE.
The 10% extra luck that flagging up for PvP makes no real difference in the grand scheme of things by comparison.
And a difference that makes no difference is no difference.
The only difference that this flagging system makes, is that it stops griefing at the cost of virtually nothing. But i guess you’re only able to empathise with chosen few, not everyone.
Edit: if you want to understand why the pvp flagging bonus is not that relevant in the grand scheme of things. You can read up on how exponential bonuses get calculated and the see the database for open world stuff.
leveling up Greatsword mid way,
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buy house in Brimstone.
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I can empathise with you as well not only selected minority if you just not ignore and I already said that on one of my post before that you are right about making money even with chopping woods is more efficient than territory holdings but disagree on how you ignore pvp flaggers have advantages on full pvers. You are still ignoring them as saying a difference that makes no difference is no difference. If it is a running competition and someone passes another for 0,00000000000000000001 ms it makes him 1st and another 2nd and this is just like how the luck is implemented in this game and it is proven with numbers and obviously stated factor that flagging on pvp has MORE luck than non-flagging. That difference makes no difference is your “OPINION” while there is an existent difference is a “FACT” .Your opinion makes no difference in reality, with your words.
Everything is relevant in the grant scheme of things because these minor stuff gets a snowball effect with each other and raises overall value. like adding a lot of %0.00001s together to make them worth it and even if it is a minor difference it is still a difference and gives advantages among others.
With that wisdom thropies doesn’t worth it, luck equipments doesn’t worth it, any other % values of stuff doesn’t worth it and even nerfs are not nerfs like how some trait gives %10 dmg before and now it gives %9 dmg now.
It is the ignoring part that I’ve stuck on your statements just because you think that difference is no difference. It is still logically a difference. I also don’t even care for these stuff. I never change my build according some nerfs if i really enjoy playing and if it still does the job. I never min/max but someone cares for that and that’s ok for me. I don’t find them to like it stupid. It is their tastes, their job. Why should i care?
And you need to remember that importance is a huge variable factor from one to another and so personal thing. A kid’s most important stuff might be a toy and it might feel that its world is destroyed if it loses that while some guy feels like same importance for his job or even for his phone etc. and you shouldn’t find it stupid for all of them.
So, for someone, being in a full PvP or PvE server might be deciding factor to play while you don’t even care.
I don’t even understand why people are so against these. Why do you care so much to find wanting a PvE/PvP only server stupid ? What will you lose if they both have their servers ? Will that do any harm to your gaming experience ? Will it affect you ?
I think it won’t and this is my opinion. Enlighten me if it harms you in any ways.
Good ur touching on the actual problems.
Differences that only affects a very small number of people dont realy matter, if 99.9% of the people that play this game couldn’t care less about this THEN it is not worth wasting resources on this. ITS not as easy as flipping a switch (has already been talked about by the dev’s/CM)… as you said if people want PvP servers, others will want PvE serves, and those people will want changes to this servers, cause the game in its current version just doesnt work if u take out the PvE or the PvP.
What this means is RESOURCES (People that work on DEVELOPING for the 99,9% of the population) get taken away and wasted on creating this USELESS servers ( u have 10 people on a server that can host 2500, wasteful in so many ways).
Those resources can be used to create something that BENEFITS 99.9% of the population, rather then the very small minority that keeps asking for the wierdest shit. People act like there are infinite amount of employees at AGS, and there are NOT! If someone is working on setting up PvE or PvP servers, that person is not working on improving the actual game…which should be their job.
Also when talking about min-maxing people get realy passionate… oooo you have 60% vs 60.1 … YES! 60.1% > 60%, but in the grand scheme of this it is IRRELEVANT, to most people that is, again realistically nobody cares about those 0.1% of the population that takes things to this kind of extreme.
u have 10 people on a server that can host 2500, wasteful in so many ways
Well, resources is the only real argument for people who are against to open these adressed pve/pvp servers and always blame the others asking for those servers will leave you resourceless and game won’t improve which is not true at all and selfish.
You simply don’t want them to ask this because it isn’t worth for you and you don’t care about it but how it becomes known if people don’t ask for it and how you can understand the amount of people who wants these servers like how it happened for Fresh server starts ? This is already why we started to argue.
I am just saying “ok it might not worth for you but it worths for them even if it is ridiculous for you, so let them ask” that’s all. It is a feedback. it is not for you. It is for people who wants it and for AGS.
My personal preference has nothing to do with this.
Gather signatures and prove that there are enough people interested. If people cannot be bothered to press 3 clicks for your idea, its probably not a very good one.
If there are enough people interested like people were in fresh start, Im sure AGS will provide the servers… thou fresh start servers needed no changes. They are identical to old servers in every single way, so no change needed to happen for them and no extra resources other then the servers themselves.
It’s as simple as that, but atm it looks like there are not, its been months since people have made the PvP server pettition, its been shared multiple times on every single server in game, and even people like me that are not interested whatsoever in it signed it, and they cant even get 400 signatures from a global audience of around 250k active players (few millions inactive), not even enough to fill 1 servers.
It’s as simple as that, but atm it looks like there are not, its been months since people have made the PvP server pettition, its been shared multiple times on every single server in game, and even people like me that are not interested whatsoever in it signed it, and they cant even get 400 signatures from a global audience, not even enough to fill 1 servers.
and it is not a reason to that they should stop asking. If they really want that bad, they need to keep asking and you shouldn’t be bothered by that. If they don’t, they won’t reach enough audience to make ags hear them.
I might not be here if some of my friends write me on discord that NW will open fresh servers. I would say that i would return if fss happens but stopped following forums, the game etc. So they need this communication which i am still saying since beginning of our argument but you keep ignoring and are still trying to bring valid points why AGS shouldn’t open pve/pvp servers. That’s not our discussion. Should they ask for that or not is our discussion. You are discussing with a topic that i am not discussing with you which feels so absurd.
it is not like “hey! you asked already once and couldn’t reach enough numbers. Now shut up!” lol.