Interesting. A quick search back through the forums to shortly after the launch displays numerous posts with people crying for nerfs to every weapon available. I’m guessing back before the February patch was before that nerf bat hit your favorite weapons and gear.
I really want to try PVP with ‘poise’ turned off. Meaning when you hit a player you micro stun them so they can’t no brain left click spam you.
That change alone would make GA users rethink how they play.
Although stun locks will always be a problem.
Not the Devs fault when you are too stubborn to use the 2 side entrances and keep running out at the front.
Imo the reason cc is so prevalent is because dodge is so spammable. It’s near impossible to secure a kill when someone rolls away after the first hit.
Dodge/stam needs to be reworked to make the game less about rolling across the map and more about positioning.
My suggestion would be have stam regen scale of dex, and increase the cost of roll. Additionally need to reduce damage over all so the ttk is much higher and add diminishing returns to cc, finally they need to increase potion CDs so we’re not poping them like tic-tacs.
This would create imo a pvp situation where players face off in a fight, are forced to soak some damage and time dodges. And not a situation like we have now where people 100-0 in a single combo, because that’s the only way to get a kill.
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CCs are necessary because people who are good would hardly ever die if they were free to hop, evade, and dodge whenever they wanted. Every MMO I played is always a “CC spam” because once you run into a good player, if you don’t CC them, they probably aren’t going to die.
Do I like being caught in grav wells or Ice Lines? Of course not because I don’t like to die. As a light armor build with multiple escapes/dont die skills, I could go entire OPRs without dying if CC was removed from the game and I always was able to move when I wanted to. CC in the game forces me to play more intelligently, forces me to conserve my cooldowns, forces me to respect builds that would have no chance of catching me if they lacked CC.
Good post overall, DRs would probably ruin the game as it is currently balanced. People just don’t like getting CC’d. Imagine trying to kill anyone with a healer and not in light armor without the current roots and CC in the game. Firestaff is not meta on any large servers. This is fake news. People use it to stat pad in OPR, which I am assuming you are mistaking for “meta”.
Yeah this is the bane of MMO’s. Weaker players complain about CC’s because the potential for outplay by a more skilled opponent is huge. When someone is more skilled, and there is big CC in the game it feels cheap when they die by them. I really don’t have that big of a problem dying to CC and can top the charts in OPR with multiple builds and weapons, but I will admit it felt bad when I first was playing the game and didn’t know the ins and outs of every weapon. This post is probably more about bow needing a buff than anything else.
I think AGS has already learned this lesson about removing skill based CC from the game with removing stagger from the game.
I think AoE CC is the problem. I doubt we’d have as many complaints as we do now if all CC were single target.
Additionally, if the combat system was different, like stagger on hit or a temporary slow, we wouldn’t need hard CC at all.
Try dodging. Get armor with resilience and/or freedom. It’s not impossible. Like anything it takes practice.
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This 
Agreed!
Only takes 1-3 players to CC/squash anyone trying to leave through the side gates. Ever watched wars?
Did my first invasion the other night and… omfg… your base gets attacked by these huge Brainiac heads that shoot laserbeams out the eyes! OMFG!
It was sooooo much fun!
That will not fix the problem. People are not complaining because they don’t like AOE cc. The complaints stem from how players feel when they die. They don’t like the feeling of being chain CC’d and dead. This will happen as long as CC is in the game. Even if there is no CC in the game they will get killed by the top skilled players in whatever method is best for killing and it will feel just as bad. If you really peel back the argument and dig to the root it really stems down to skilled players extremely outplaying people and killing them quickly isn’t fun. You see the same types of arguments in very high skill cap games like Fortnite, LoL, etc… The sad truth is what Ticker said is what it is, if you practice and get really good these abilities aren’t as much as a problem. Noobs are getting kills with roots yes, but the good players hardly die to them.
I tend to agree some CC is over tuned or could be adjusted a little, but I would never get on board with insane changes like introducing DRs.
Add a diminishing return system for CC. We’ve been asking for this for months. I literally can’t do anything sometimes from 100% health to 0% health. There is no counterplay for something like that once you get caught. At that point its up to the enemy team to keep you in a CC chain so you can’t control your character anymore. This is a pretty obvious change that should have happened months ago.
Less damage, less cc would make the combat feel much better.
With spear if I land all three abilities all but tanks die. With ice shower I land all three abilities. It’s a problem imo.
Also reduce dodge spam
It’s kind of necessary for a game with no tab targeting and limited gap closing.
The perma CC lock down is not the problem, the lack of any real ranged pressure is the problem.
Had the Bow not been nerfed to the ground, lime they ask for everyday of the musket, ayers could actually put pressure on the bruisers on the point.
I don’t know what you mean mistaking for meta. Firestaff is 1,000% meta right now on Castle of Steel. There’s tons of them, not only in OPR, but also war, and in dueling, and in group dueling. It’s a very good weapon in all forms of PVP content.
Meta can be more than 1 thing. The meta currently involves FS/IG users, GA/Hammer. Some people run other stuff that’s similar, like GA/IG. Healing obviously part of meta because why wouldn’t it be?
A big change that would make PvP more balanced and less of a spam fest would be yes, first and foremost, make it so that these roots don’t stay in the game with the exception of musket traps I guess.
Melee light and heavy attacks NEED stamina cost. This would prevent so much brain dead left click spam, as well as making it so players can attack and move at the same time similar to SMITE.
Only make it so players are stationary during heavy attacks but can still freely rotate. B
Add the option to turn ability queing OFF.
right there 90% of issues would be gone overnight.
Buff everything so everything is viable, and no one feels weak
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