Overwolf MINIMAP still NO communication by AGS!

Sure because that’s how anticheat works. Lol

Aha, How? You still think ocr? What’s the refreshrate like?

What about reading the games memory, or gpu framebuffer?

Ìf one were true the other wouldn’t matter.

It takes a screenshot of the coordinates in the upper right of your FPS menu and updates the minimap. How hard is that to figure out? If they wanted to disable the minimap they’d just have to remove coordinates from the FPS bar lol

Who cares about a mini-map or addons anymore? No addon maker is going to waste the energy on a game spiraling down the drain as quickly as this one. Overwolf can see all the same news articles and bug/glitch/exploit videos on the net and the plummeting player numbers on Steam while AGS stumbles around in the dark blindly hoping they can patch something, the same as we all can. I’m betting they’re going to disassociate themselves from anything to do with NW real soon, if not already. I expect their next announcement will be they’ve decided to remove compatibility with NW and will be focusing on other existing and future games.

Honestly, the game has so many more issues than worrying about a Mini-Map that has minimal impact.
Yes, a player can see where nodes can be without looking at the map on his second screen, yes, this convenience adds a bit of advantage. But it doesn’t tell you if nodes are up, it doesn’t show where teammates or quests are. In the grand scheme of things it is the most insignificant of advantages.
Meanwhile people are literally creating money and items out of nothing, using machine gun staffs, enjoying permanent and powerful buffs (not the players fault as it just happens).
So talking about banning players using a Mini-Map or confirming if it can be used is just a non-issue at the moment

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give that man a medal!

What’s the problem with having a mini-map anyhow?

I mean, all it’s doing is providing some quality of life, time saves. it’s not like it offers an unfair advantage as all the info it shows is easily obtainable using maps in the browser, if anything I would say this is a good thing as it keeps players more immersed and actively playing the game.

so, what is the objection about this?
Cuz I dont get it.

Nothing has been allowed. From the very start they have said, we advice you not to use it and wait till talks are done. Players just took it on themselves to use it. So not sure the analogy really works as nothing was given or allowed by AGS as of yet.

Im confused to why people seem to think AGS have give any go ahead. They’re in talk and that’s all, if they decided to make it ban able, it’s on the player for not just waiting

The one in question gives lot more info than a normal mini map. Location of ores, documents, chests, named mobs, etc.

Imho i fine with a normal minimap, but the ones shows lot more and ruins the point of unlocking the ability to track resources when you hit a certain gathering level

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ahhh I see, thanks for explaining it

5skika

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That is why i asked for the refresh rate. OCR is slow.

No, OCR is plenty fast when done right. The code below I created based off another design I saw, it takes a screenshot of the top right, adjusts the image to turn the coords text black, and whiten out everything else so you’re left with a white canvas with the coords. The OCR itself takes 50-200 ms.

public static string ScanDesktop(Rectangle rec)
        {
            Bitmap captured = ImageMatcher.CaptureRegion(rec, PixelFormat.Format24bppRgb);

            Image<Rgba32> capturedSharp = captured.ToImageSharp();


            capturedSharp.Mutate(x => x
                .Crop(new SixLabors.ImageSharp.Rectangle(capturedSharp.Width - XOffset, YOffset, TextWidth, TextHeight))
                .Resize(TextWidth * 6, TextHeight * 6));

            capturedSharp.Mutate(x => x
                .HistogramEqualization()
                .Crop(new SixLabors.ImageSharp.Rectangle(0, 2 * 6, TextWidth * 6, 16 * 6))
                .WhiteFilter(0.9f)
                .Dilate(2)
                .Pad(TextWidth * 8, TextHeight * 16, Color.White));

            // capturedSharp.ToBitmap().Save(path, ImageFormat.Jpeg);
            CurrentBitmap = capturedSharp.ToBitmap();

            IronTesseract ironTesseract = new()
            {
                Configuration =
                {
                    WhiteListCharacters = "0123456789 ",    
                    EngineMode = TesseractEngineMode.TesseractAndLstm
                }
            };

            using var input = new OcrInput(capturedSharp.ToBitmap());
            var result = ironTesseract.Read(input);

            return result.Text; // Do whatever you want with coords. 
        }```

Must have been python then. When i built a Inventoryscanner for Warframe also using tesseract i got about 1-2 result per sec. But for that project i had a-Z as possible chars.

Are those 50-200ms (20 - 5 fps btw) updates with or without the game running?

it doesnt mean because you dont care that others wont.
about the “plummiting of players on steam”, this is normal… everyone compares the numbers to the first week wich was PEAK players on launch… about 400k players every 24 hours is a very healthy playerbase… World of warcraft for example PEAKS about 500k players in a day.
perhaps you should stop reading shitty gaming articles, those same sources posted that the minimap was fine to use when it released (wich was not the case) those are just untrustworthy articles. (just delist them from your newswall)

WoW peaks at 500k per day ( according to you as there are no official numbers posted ) AFTER 17 YEARS, NW peaks at 400k AFTER 1 MONTH and dropping. Streamers are still handing out FREE KEYS to NW, yet the numbers are going DOWN. 2 Days ago, NW was #29 on Steams top sellers. Yesterday it was #47 and already this morning it is #52. No matter where you run or how you try to spin it, everything shows this turd circling the bowl faster and faster.

It’s with it running, I ran it inside of a thread and I am also not capturing the entire desktop, just about a 100x20 area.

Mine was without the game (warframe in my case) running, by instead feeding it already made screenshots done by a different script with all the preprocessing (crop and bw) done before for all cropped images before ocr.

So anyway, in the end it doesnt matter how the minimap acquires its data. You could for example build an entirely external device aimbotting for you in csgo and by your logic that wouldn’t be against Tos or even cheating.

Quick, ban monitors!

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what a stupid comment, you cant bann hardware…
funny your even trying to bring this in, there has been ppl using tape on their screen to make a reticle in games whithout reticles for ages… but can you bann that? thats trying to find a needle in a haystack and very unrealistic.

you can bann players on software related things tho. that includes aimbot programs, modding games etc etc
bann keybinds also (raise eyebrows) stupid comment my man.

To think that you thought he was serious is funny.

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im not surprised about ppl anymore really, why would you even post it if hes not going to contribute to the topic and just troll…
honestly i think this guys wasnt trolling lol