The first snip is just a meaningless automated standard reply everyone gets just to shut you up in hope human intervention is not necessary.
Think logically for a second, how does one go from a generic ‘disruptive behavior’ to a specific ‘violation against pre-release NDA’? Why wouldn’t you stick to one consistent story for a ban?
And no, my first instinct is not to assume people are lying given AGS track record for ‘random’ bans.
The CSR(s) obviously screwed up because it’s not a pre-release test. It’s a public* test realm. Better training is required. Someone in higher authority should do a manual review of this. Very bad for PR.
Mine is when it comes to people complaining on a forum they, I mean their “friend”, was banned.
I’m not trying to say people haven’t unfairly been banned. They have.
I’m not trying to say mistakes haven’t been made, they have.
The PTR is public facing, information about the PTR is being discussed on the servers A LOT. If they were banning because of that there would be a plethora of people complaining. The fact their isn’t says a lot.
They cannot attach an NDA to anything public facing. Its likely they were NOT banned for discussing the PTR, the ban was likely for something completely different, and the LIVE Chat (who has been proven several times not to know what is actually going on) posted a bunch of responses that just made it sound far worse than it most likely was.
Money says at some point a DEV/CM will chime in here and say they aren’t banning people for discussing the PTR. If they say opposite of that I’ll eat my words and join the bandwagon, but I bet that won’t happen.
Yes, so why did someone go through the trouble to cite a long and very specific NDA violation instead of just sticking to the easy ‘you got banned for toxic behavior’?
It makes no sense.
Wait.
But youtube videos about PTR changes are ok? Or every youtuber already got banned for this?
I have never logged onto the PTR either. I did, however, update the PTR on my steam library list and it said that I ‘visited’ one time, so I wonder if your friend did the same?
The whole system is a joke.
Think of it this way, you have some people come over to chill at your house. Randomly, one of the people becomes belligerent for no reason at all. The person starts verbally attacking people and everyone is confused. In return, I’m pretty sure, you would tell the person, “Stop it, leave the house, or I’ll call the officials to resolve it.” That’s a form of partially or completely banning someone.
Ban this CSR from his job
So this entire thread is based on hearsay and we do not even get to see the conversation to understand the context of what actually occurred?
You state that this person was banned for discussing something in ‘global’ which we are to assume is in game? Perhaps the conversation was extremely toxic and the ban was a result of this (disruptive behavior stipulated as original ban) and an Amazon employee made a human error when inputting the denial on the appeal?
Sorry, without the conversation, this simply looks like ‘your friend’ was going off toxic in chat, got banned and when the appeal was filed for the disruptive behavior ban in global chat, an error was made with someone hitting the wrong button and the denial came across for NDA instead of disruptive behavior.
We do not even have basics in this thread such as the conversation, whether this person is on his third ‘disruptive behavior’ ban ect.
Sorry, not willing to set the fire beneath the witches feet…
I went to the bottom of the thread to type something similar. You beat me here. I’ll keep the torches and pitch fork at my side, but I’m not ready to stab at monsters yet until I see more info about this situation. Only have about half of this story.
Seems like a rash of dyslexia here. The message show Pre-release Testing, so PRT. But, most of the posts here are saying it refers to Public Test Realm, so PTR. Neither of the images above are dated, so impossible to tell if these are old or new responses.
I tend to believe what’s written and not what’s imagined and this is stated as Pre-release Testing, so I’m going to go with that unless I see something other than what is listed above.
As finally people are pointing out above, these emails are not referring to the PTR (Public Test Realm) but clearly state Pre-release Test (PRT) which I do believe there were NDA’s for those who played the PRT, and since there is no evidence for when these emails were received this can easily be total BS.
And seeing how many posts here are eagerly criticizing AGS for a post that is more than likely completely illegitimate lets me know how blown out of proportion every issue with this game is.
Nobody else intrigued by the typing indicator at the end of the second screenshot?
The entire post is suspicious as fuck. The “proof” isn’t proof at all and on top of that it doesn’t say PTR/Public test realm - a term they themselves use. It says Pre-release test which sounds like closed beta/alpha stuff. I think OP is full of shit. The CSR’s are bad but there’s literally nothing backing up what the OP said besides a snippet of supposedly support which he could’ve easily typed himself and since we see the typing indicator on the bottom, which shouldn’t be there if he’s reviewing an email, it’s more than likely OP is just stirring shit up for no reason.
0 reason why he would’ve transposed an email into an editable document and why he wouldn’t have taken a snippet instead of the entire email.
Every day these devs do something that makes me believe they haven’t played an MMO before or been apart of a PTR. Hell I don’t believe most of them even play this game, unless they are lvl 10 still. Pre-release Test, imo, would be anything before the game was released not for a public test realm. No way their support is that bad, that the can’t distinguish between the two. Then to have it get appealed and said that it’s final. Did they even show him a quote of what he said and under what forum? Evidence of the reason to be banned would be amazing.
really… I dont think even blizz would do this
The whole case seems like extremely uninformed Ban Mods who confused rules for the former PRT (Pre-Release Test) with current PTR (Public Test Realm). All NDA’s of the PRT had been lifted with release of the game and you can’t breach an NDA which you have never agreed to.
The other thing that makes we wonder is the edit by the OP stating that a CM contacted the Ban team to get this sorted while in so many other cases of suspected wrongful perma bans they raise their hands saying they can’t do anything at all to intervene. Frankly, the amount of threads here regarding apparently wrongful perma bans is very concerning and most of that could be cleared up if the Ban team would communicate properly their proof and reason.
To give a comparison: The cops can’t just fine you and say “because you violated traffic laws” without giving you the specifics (speeding? When, Where, how much?). AGS only ever cites a section of the rules without telling you what exactly you supposedly did. You always have to do both: Explain the rule and explain how you violated them.
It’s very concerning. 
Probably the thing that keeps me most safe is the fact that I don’t know how to chat in game.
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