People talked about this type of thing long ago. Yet like so many mechanics that allow griefing, AGS does nothing.
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Yea pretty much every m10 once you go in, they are like “kick me at the end, we’re selling shards” or worse yet, you help them beat the boss and they kick you and invite the buyer.
There’s so much pressure to beat the m10 with gold that it’s not even fun or organic… feels like you are being used.
Someone told me some of them will pretend you’re the problem they are not getting gold and demand everyone pay up 3k… but in reality you’re the only one paying, the others are their guildees and friends. So they get free labor from you, 3k from you, and whatever the buyer’s paying, usually 18k for 6k shards.
i dont think thats how that works at the very end.
the former is what im expecting at the least.
if you are randoming in and they are kicking you that is BS
if you are part of a premade group then thats on you and your group to make that decision to sell before you jump in and waste your time.
Well, I respond to M10 ads so I guess it’s randoming in? I wish I had a group of M10 buddies who aren’t teenage boys that grief. I never agree with selling shards. But if they want to sell, I can’t control that… it’s their orb.
yeah that is a random group and that is BS
black list them and move on.
get some friends and grind that crap. at least 3 iirc to keep your self from being booted (you and 2 others)
Well, the bigger issue is this is now a trend… and it’s scary. Some players are essentially abusing this - they’re sitting on 300k shards and have no use for it and not only do they sell it, they eat it too. It discourages me that some people can just buy shards without putting in the work. And also shard hoarders are abusing good-willed organic players who do wanna do an orb for orb m10.
its a resource and people will always find a way to make money on it especially with how much of a lottery this game is when it comes to making money to spend on more lottery crafting to make it easer to pvp or pve.
there for selling shards is probably the most convenient and constant way of generating some kind of income. in the same way that when people were grinding dungeon items selling orbs was just as profitable
something something about fools and their money.
if a group (a full 5man) wants to do it and split the profit per run then i really have no issues with it as that is a decision that group made.
if people are exploiting the labor of Randoms then that is 100% a problem
i personally dont care about the person that purchased the shards.
I’m asking AGS to provide a response to this… My main concern is there’s people selling shards, not telling you until the very end when they kick you when the boss is at like 2% hp, then they invite the buyer. You “worked for free” and then they trash talk about you (when you got them the gold) to discredit you from getting in other m10s. Selling shards is 1 thing. Yes, it’s a resource, ok so sure, if I tell myself that then I’m OK with people selling it, but AGS needs to implement a system so good-willed general folks aren’t tricked into a M10 dungeon, worked very hard, and bam, no reward (chest after beating boss, no shards). I too don’t have anything against people who buy shards because the sellers are the enablers. They’re just consumers. Keep in mind when they kick you, they got the gold from the buyer(s), and they got their own shards… Double dipping.
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Thank you. The key problem I see is a trend of bad actors luring free labor, then use them, kick them, all the while they make coin, and have it both ways. The people buying the shards… I can live with, although it is unfair to players who worked very very hard to get m10 gold… I have 1000 hours so far in this game. Again, I wish to see the bad actors punished for using people. The people who sell shards, but don’t kick you, I can also live with. Because they are kicking themselves to get coin instead of shard. It’s their orb. It concerns me that eventually everyone is going to be 625 GS, and there will be no new content for them, as I am already seeing on Pluto. So many 625s in the past month alone. While I am happy for them if it was genuinely obtained, it begs the question, did they buy it. @BRGF
You have no clue how this actually works. As other commenters said, it is a few bad apples. Block them and move on. This IS NOT happening for the majority. The guys that do it on our server are quite upstanding and want return customers and split the gold with the people that help.
OK I have no clue. Just for the record, I have not once been offered to “split the gold.” Nor will I accept the gold if offered. Please be civil, it’s not like AGS will ban selling shards, don’t worry, you will still make money that way. I’m not after guys like you, I’m after the people who abuse it, the bad apples.
Not me, I just know how it works over here. The newer players love it as a small bump to get over the starting hump. id rather have either the drops or shards so I am not running these. They already said they are fixing it kinda by making the boss reset if im not mistaken. Now they will just turn into carries.
This game appears to rely on “Grief” mechanics alot, contested resources etc etc.
Say’s a lot about the mentality of the people running the show.
Cant see them even getting close to the player base at launch until they really address these issues.
Lack of content, getting people to squabble over stuff could be a big driver for this attitude.
0/10 for causal player friendly.
Be honest dude… This didn’t happen to you. It’s such a waste of time to drag a pug through an m10 in the first place. And to go through the trouble of selling a single spot… I think (and sure it’s without evidence. But so is your claim of this happening.) You’re just but hurt that people can buy them instead of grouping with you or carrying you through them for free.
Please stop trolling. Thank you.
Snowflake your definition of griefing is so pathetic.
That’s exactly what I’m asking you to do.
buyer doesnt have to pay? they can run their own m10. yall ridiculous, and ruin everything fun about nw.
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