Group Finder can be a great QOL tool to help those who don’t have a regular party to run with. It can help to make the game … friendlier, kinder to a casual player. Especially if they’re not the kind to shout in Local chat or try to ingratiate themselves to groups who are “LF1M”.
At the same time a Group Finder can become a curse, if implemented badly. You called out some of the worst examples - requirements for Gear Score being ridiculously high, to point out one. Even in WOW I only took GS as a very general indicator. Gear Score doesn’t say anything about player qualities. I’ve seen people with top GS being utterly useless, and on the other hand people with abysmal GS being some of the MVPs of boss fights because they handled their roles well.
So I’m thinking whether it really is about Group Finder or about some other ingrained practices that ruin the game for everyone. Not trying to disprove your original post, just thinking out loud.
Oh, as a sidenote, I had all the Ahead Of the Curve achievements…
FFXIV has dungeon finder tool and it has one of the best communities in the world so i am going to call BS on “dungeon finder tools destroy communities”.
But hey don’t worry. Once the population dwindles off which surely will you can have fun sitting there twiddling your thumbs because there is no one to group with. Done this song and dance way too many times at every MMO that I have played at release.
No group finder, but you can fast travel to the dungeons.
A group finder that makes groups, but doesnt teleport you the dungeon.
Two is my fav as it reduced LFG spam and doesnt port you so the world isnt made smaller.
Novelty wears off fas and comprimise saves MMOs.
Just to add, the social aspect of dungeon finders is meaningless.
LF tank
Im tank
Invite
hardly being robbed of riveting converaation are we.
We need to have some kind of a tool to find a party. I really do not want to waste my life standing in front of a dungeon finding a group for 1 hour just so i can play the game… no thanks, i do not have a 24hrs a day to play this game and when i have my time i want to spend it enjoying it playing the dungeons, not wasting it by searching a teammates to play with… Stop comparing something thats been there 20 years ago becasue anything better wasnt developed at that time
Why not compare to a game that ruined everything up and has become the standard of MMOs who everyone tries to mimic?
And well if there will be a group finder, then it must NOT expose stats/achievements/gearscore of the people in the finder. That will promote cherrypicking.
It has already started since there are a lot of people who request gear score before they allow people in their groups. Can’t wait for “Link your Ahead the Curve XXX”.
So … i hate to say it man but its the communities that destroy themselves… not the lfg tool. and you just said it yourself…
Well if there will be a group finder, then it must NOT expose stats/achievements/gearscore of the people in the finder. That will promote cherrypicking.
It has already started since there are a lot of people who request gear score before they allow people in their groups.
No lfg tool in the game yet and the community is already doing the thing you say the lfg tool will do…just saying
Maybe true m_scritchfield, but it all started with WoW and the ease of cherry picking people without actually communicating anything with them. Even after the group has formed, just run through a dungeon, rinse and repeat. Believe me, I was in WoW since beta, almost 20 years.
I can understand not wanting an automated group finder added; but after forming a group for the first expedition yesterday I found the lack of some in-game system where people can indicate they’re looking to do the expedition very tedious and inefficient. The current everyone spam chat that they are LFG is the most inefficient possible way to form groups. More structure is definitely needed.
People wanting only overgeared/overleveled players for their groups isn’t unique to New World… it happens in every MMO sadly and once the mindset gets too entrenched players that are behind start feeling a lot of pressure to either buy boosts or just stop playing.
Also, the current repair cost/part system needs to be revised; it costs way to many coins and parts to repair gear right now. If the systems stays as is its only going to put more emphasis on groups wanting only overgeared/overleveled people.
Hello,
Please add a Group finder when possible.
The many players that already have groups / guilds / friends will not be bothered by this.
The ones like me who play solo whenever they have time will GREATLY appreciate it.
I couldn’t agree more, one of the game’s strengths is that it doesn’t just become another Instance simulator MMORPG.
I wouldn’t mind a tool like FFXIV “party finder” where you can list your group and people can join in for X activity, but even that might be pushing it too far.
I would like a group finder on any activities even if you want to have a fishing buddy. It will improve interaction with players more. It helps finding a group faster instead of spamming chat with the same text over and over until someone bother to even read them.
I don’t have time to stand at the entrance to the dungeon, hoping to shout in the chat “lfg” to find a group for the dungeon. So I disagree with the author and I want to see a group finder system in the game.
To be honest, not everything has to be like wow or your idea of mmo games needing to be like wow classic (servers are there for that game if you wanna go waste your life again there). Ques don’t need to have an interface and be across the world to join. You could have a simple system at the dungeon entrance. Which would help lower levels when the current player base is max level as no one is going to want to run amrine when they can go run dynasty. This is of course looking into the long term. Also, being 100 years old doesn’t mean anyone is lazier than you. You do realize blizzard had issues where players could not complete dungeons because they weren’t given the chance, because most people are either grouped up already or don’t care for new ppl
A group finder wouldn’t really work in NW, due to the “classless” system. How would you prevent people from queueing as healers or tanks just to bypass the wait time? Checking their equipped weapons for life staff or a weapon with a carnelian gem won’t work, since anyone can use any weapon.
I’m fine with a group finder as long as the only thing it does is put people in a group, nothing else. no x-server groups, no teleporting to dungeons, etc. Just a tool to help people get in a group without having to spam chat to do so…
Similarly, players can now change their weapons. All on trust, I don’t think players will abuse the opportunity to change weapons, and such cases will not happen often. Players are interested in going through the dungeon and not failing
I’m glad you had a good experience with FFXIVs community but that’s not anywhere near the truth.
My wife and friends have been bullied in dungeons and eventually quit. There is a reason FFXIV is also known as a “nice community”
I love FFXIV, but also want it to be clear when Blanket statements like this are made.
FFXIV community is toxic, it’s also wonderful. It’s like every game community out there.
Duty finder contributions to this, but it also allows more players to roll the dice and have a good time.
