Please Tell Me: Should I keep playing? I'm tired by AGS and their constant nerfs to endgame

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Hi lads and lassies,

I will try to stay as positive as I can.
I have recently received an in-game achievement for playing 320 hours. Steam says 366h.
I am level 60. Personal HWMGS about 505-515.
I stopped with main story around lvl 50, my azoth staff is lvl 3.
I have leveled gathering almost everything up to 200, logging 185 and fishing 30.
I tried dabbling in Crafting, ended up only with 200 Cooking, 130 Arcana and 150 Armoring just before 1.1 patch. The rest is negligible.

I never saw Dynasty, Lazarus or the third one. I did only Amrine, Shattered Obelisk and Depths.
I did elite chests run/myrk/mount/pools/ portals - once, maybe a month ago.
I’m trying to do solo sirens chest runs in reekwater - but it’s not that fun, and running from mobs stresses the crap out of me.

My Gear is 2 items from Syndicate 520, and 3 items around 580GS from AH. Weapons vary in GS.

I understand that there is much to do here. But since patch 1.1 I have no idea what to do with myself. I am also a healer… in heavy armor. I have leveled entire game a healer in heavy, with hatchet, LS, occasional hammer and now VG.

I don’t like running solo chest runs, it creeps me out. I don’t like zerg runs in pvp in elite zones, I can’t get orbs to do end game dungeons, nor there is a point to do them with my current HWM.
I would like to finish my story and all the additional quests in all the zones, but I feel like I’m useless and hindered as a healer in heavy in solo pve.

I come to you, fellow gamers, fellow NW enthusiasts, fellow broken spirits and enduring adventurers - would you guide me? would you help me?
I have lost my compass… I have no idea what to do with myself in this game anymore.
I log in once a three days, and just farm wood, herbs, boars, some chests in WW. maybe 1 OPR a night, 1 Amrine a night if there are people for it.
You are my last resort… I searched youtube, i talked with guild mates, I checked reddit, checked forum, looked in game… I… I would like to enjoythis game, but I don’t know how anymore…

Thank you for your time and attention in advance,

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I would suggest you take a break from New World. With the game forcing the progression system that they want on us. Disincentivizing crafters and gatherers with the expertise system from utilizing crafted/bought gear. Nerfing your gear to the ground if you did not engage in the watermark system. I was very hopeful for the game now I see it as it is. If you still have activities in the game you find enjoyable continue them.

I for one would just log on from time to time to fish.

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Yeah Im considering it week by week :smiley: after each patch note I say I’m done. and I still log in, and next patch notes hit, and I’m even more angry and devastated.
I’m that kind of player that keeps playing one game at a time. Very monogamous :smiley:
So either I will play NW, or won’t. Probably that’s the only thing that really keeps me in - I don’t have anything else to play right now. Maybe it’s time to play Witcher 3, second full run after 6 years :smiley:

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Hopefully the devs make changes that make the game more enjoyable. I love the turkey update and been enjoying coordinating with the server people to find the kill it. They should just add more things to make the game enjoyable. Less timegating and let us play what we want. You can try other MMOS like ffxiv, lost ark (which is published by AGS and currently in BETA). I for one reinstalled MH world and just replay the spectacle sure it is grindy to farm materials to get your weapon but the game play loop is fun. Learning about a monster and killing it skillfully.

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I am in a similar situation.
My lvl 60 is on a server with 120 peak players (no token to move). I have seen all Expeditions, played a lagfest war once just didnt like 50 people just smashing their heads. Played Invasion… where people just quit and it was lost. Never tried OPR as there were already too few people on the server when it launched. Tried to do reekwater quests solo… as tank its impossible. Elites… its impossible… 60+ regular mobs, that would work solo but they drop nothing and do not increase anything. My company left to another server which died now too and they all stopped playing NW.

Decided to level a second character as most “endgame content” is not accessible or just plain boring and uninteresting for me, on a server where my casual RL friends were playing. After one week where I started there most of them stopped playing returned to GTA and other games. I kept playing because I enjoyed to level up the character and having time to enjoy the lore. Since the Elite change making them super sponges I hat to skipp all low level elites as they were not doable even with being 15 levels higher than them. Currently have to do questline of Restless… and with this upcoming change. I doubt I will spend any more time in this game since again all my friends already quit it (some at lvl 59 not even bothering to do endgame content).

I cant say if I will completely stop but the only options I have when hitting 60 with my second characters are just boring hours spent dashing on Sponge enemies with no interesting moveset together with people I dont play with or know.

Most “endgame” Content feels like work and a huge Chore to me and if I want to work, I can swap on my work computer and actually do WORK where I get actually pretty good compensation for (money). I play games to enjoy my freetime. They can be grinding, they can be longterm but if every activity feels like work to me I aint gonna play it.

You dont get nothing at all if you just spend time running around the map dashing low level mobs and yes… I do enjoy that most of the time and just opt out for some challenges. But AGS is now forcing everyone to ONLY do challenges and this feels like work.

Coming back to your question: You might have not seen as much as I did, and at least the expeditions would have been something to be seen at least once. But I still would say… no you did not miss much if you stop.

If a game starts to feel like work which you do not enjoy, stop playing it, there are a ton of other games out there which you could play instead and maybe also enjoy more.

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@BloodGed - I don’t think any of us are practiced enough in the art of divination to give such advice. :slight_smile:

Personally I hope and pray that AGS reverse their course and instead of more and more grind and negative impacts begin to bring in positive motivation and variability of content. I hope they would. But I’m not holding my breath, having watched the game go downhill for the past 12 months (since alpha).

There is still time for them to save the game, which is why I’m not quitting right away. Instead, I’ll just play as normal, only with less being invested in it. Extricating yourself emotionally from the game is the important first step. If they happen to go ahead with updates as announced, I’ll be able to quit without raging about it.

The best suggestion - not advice, but suggestion - I can give is, hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

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I’m dissociating myself from my tasks and people at work. I think this is enough :wink:
I would like to love the game I’m playing and not have to cut out my heart just to survive… I do that 90% of IRL time…

Welp, I think this is it. Noone cal tell me what to do to enjoy the game.
Everyone just lingers in here like they wait for the thing to either die or miraculously get better, even though you say the game goes downhill since it’s start. so nothing ever has changed for the better, every good update is peppered with bad apples, that sour the entire experience, patch after patch.

After I left WoW for FF14, I felt like I was released from clutches of toxic girlfriend. I loved FF story and gameplay and world and feel… but I got burned out because of doing 4 expansions in 3 months. I got physically sick, when trying to do another MSQ and couldn’t finish post-Shadowbringers patches.
Then came New World, with entirely different approach than FF14 - no story (woah, finally I can just click through without reading a book! :wink: ) and you can gather everything everywhere. I loved it. but after those 2 months since launch… I’m getting those WoW toxic girlfriend vibes again :wink:
Oh well…

Thank you all for your input, if anyone would like to share their story or thoughts - feel free, I’ll probably linger on the forums to watch the world burn. And maybe with some burning fires the cleanse will happen, we’ll see.

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I dipped out a long time ago
I’m only here for forum fireworks

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I did the dungeons at end game they are un appealing the genesis boss with the puke on the ground and sometimes bugs out to initiate her wipe mechanic instantly with no animation. We cleared it but dang the puddles on the ground was a mess you cant even see them properly as the circles just darken the ground slightly the only way to reliably know if your inside a puddle is looking at your health bar and run to where your health does not drop. I was hoping that the dungeon would be fun but I found the depths dungeon to be the most fun I had.

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True New world devs didnt learn from whats happening with WOW. A lot of people are fed up with mindless grind to waste time. I enjoy FF as well once you get hooked into the story and they made a game where its up to you how you progress. You can enjoy glam, houses, even the Golden Saucer. I play FF and can never get out of the golden saucer I enjoy the mini games and triple triad XD. Cant play ff right now though do to endwalker releasing and the queue time is ungodly.

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Yeah the high tier dungeons I did once or twice so not much (before my comp left the server).
We had kinda fun but that was more because of the group dynamic we had, less because of the dungeons.

From all the expeditions I like starstone the most. But that is personal taste I guess. Sadly you cant play it at a 60+ level with 60+ drops.

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