This comment sums it up.
If I’m dancing with 1 muskeeter for trying to keep myself alive(light) while you T-bagging 4 guy in your sacred ground(heavy) and we are almost heal for the same amount then there is something wrong about armor/heal balancing.
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I only wear heavy armor while healing to troll. If you’ve never T-bagged or rolled on the ground as a heavy healer while people whale on you, you’re doing it wrong. Everyone knows it is busted.
Ah yeah those famous tank healers in wow or overwatch, who can heal himself and still keep up the entire group while getting focused by multiple enemy. Always forgot its not worth to argue with NW healers, you guys are the only one who think they have to be immortal to be usefull, while the dps can be a oneshot and die 20 times in a match or a tank can get destroyed even before reach the point, or the glass cannon dps who can die just from the healers light attack spamming while he cant even down him to 50%.
Its not like any other class heavily rely on teammates to be effective, except the healers, they dont need any peeling under 4 man, dont need any support, and basically nothing just sit in the backline and thats all, while dps need tanks, and healers to be able to stay alive, tanks need dps to support them, rangeds need tanks to have a front line etc.
Yeah they can have tons of survivability but they should have weakness too, like interrupts, cast time, mana management, and armor type etc. In new worlds none of these are weakness, instant casts, can wear any armor, can use any side arm, and can chug 4 different potion anytime, cant even get pressured by 1-2 dps to make the healer to only heal themself and survive while they focus down their dps because he can easily out heal multple people.
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You’re talking as if Heavy armor is the way to go for healers. When the meta already is not the case.
If there was no trade off for running heavy armor, explain why ranged DPS like bows + muskets + fire and ice mages don’t run heavy armor?
There are clear cut, substantial trade offs for running heavy armor on any ranged combat build. If that wasn’t clear enough, by the choices players actively make when building a loadout.
Overwatch supports have tools to hard carry fights. And kits that facilitate play making potential.
I played Overwatch on PC to Grandmaster elo. Flex picked support, tank and DPS.
Support mains in Overwatch, League of Legends and DoTA2 can make nasty as hell plays and highlight them in montages.
This game gives no tools for play making potential as a dedicated support. There is already a sacrifice component for playing Life Staff. Don’t pretend the Life Staff is the GOATed weapon that has no drawbacks.
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If heavy healing is “busted” then why would you only wear heavy to troll???
Seems like 1/4 of you don’t actually known the games actual meta.
restricting weapons to one type of armor is a bad choice, is this just the start? will next dex users can only use medium armor? and str users can only use heavy?
these armor restrictions are a bad idea that removes a unique and engaging feature of New World, removing player agency is never the right move.
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PLEASE AGS DO NOT DO THIS!. People are fed up with this WORLD OF WARCRAFT god mode healers. Please keep it exactly how it is. Tell these healers to stop freaking crying and learn to depend on their grp to peel and protect them like REAL PVP is meant to be. No freaking healer should EVER be in god mode tanking 5 people + Get out with this WoW bs.
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VG Oblivions can make or a break a win in a war tbh. It’s not highlighted in this game because it’s more under the table than the flashy Grav well. Also a group of players being at 10% health for 2 bursts worth getting clutch healed last second isn’t as flashy to see either. IG Ice showers well placed can set up mass wipes if you catch 3 backline healers in it. Against, not as flashy but Im picking up what you’re putting down.
Definitely more relevant than other games for sure.
Is it a real question or just trolling? If you cant see the difference between a ranged using a heavy armor and a healer then I dont know what to say.
A healer is more likely get hit by melees than a ranged as they are closer its a much more obvious choice to lose that about 15% bonus healing from light to be able to tank 2 more guy’s dps. A ranged would fighting multiple melees in the same time, they are using their range as defense and they obviously need as much damage as they can get as their main role is to deal damage not to being tanky.
Yes they do, but also they can easily die. A support is usually one shot in LoL or in overwatch. Or a zenyata or mercy isnt one shot for a hanzo ir 1-2 for a mccree? Soldier isnt bursting them out in 1 sec?
Didnt played LoL for years now but back then I do mained support usually, orianna, braum, blitz etc. They were tanky because I built them tanky, and yes they had no heals like a soraka because they were TANKS. A soraka or the fish lady died instantly when a khaziks/assassin jumped on it but did great heals when the team defended it. So your arguments makes no sense, it supports what I said, you either be a tank or a healer but not both if you want both you have to be much weaker than any of those two which also supports why they added the -30% for the heavy gear.
It does, you would just have to use anything other than rapier, like a GA to throw gamne changing gravs, or ice showers etc. Its not the game fault that healers are rather cheesing with rapier.
You cant even tank 2 guy in wow. You would get interrupted and die, its a new world thing only where healers has no weakness.
You see, Soraka and Nami (Fish girl) have a complete, cohesive kit. Life staff has none of that. Try building anything that resembles their kits with any of the secondary weapons in New World. You can’t.
League is a totally different game that includes champion scaling, items and the whole nine yards. An early game play has ripple effects going into mid-game and late game. New World has none of that. You’re at full build and full power at all times.
For the sake of a honest conversation, please hop on PTR and test out a life staff build.
You will have 625 Expertise, lv 20 life staff mastery and free gear to theory craft whatever you think “Healers should do.” In 3v3 arenas.
Game changing gravity wells comes from opening a fight at a huge advantage. AKA chunking players out, or outright bursting them before they can retaliate.
Pulling out a great axe with 5 STR, tossing a gravity well and saying “Hey, I contributed,” leaves me with many questions. If you aren’t using a Great Axe to cleave massive groups you’re not even using the weapon properly at that point.
Nobody brings a great axe just to use a zero scaling Gravity Well. Let’s not be facetious here. There’s using off-meta builds and then there is hardcore trolling.
Heavy should have two rolls, tanking and dmg. I agree that this game doesn’t balance almost anything really well. If you want to wear heavy and max out sustain then you have to give up DPS. But if you want to have (healing) sustain it should not be as good.
I question if you ever played any MMO. Healers are fairly universally squishy. Being able to heal a group during an encounter is a balancing act of managing your aggro with your heals/any DPS you put out. It is not “heal and entire group and when you get aggro off tank the mob”. As a healer pulling aggro in most MMOs is a bad thing, wasting a heal on yourself and not being able to heal your tank/dps is a bad thing.
There have been hybrid builds that mix tank/heals but normally they are not the best at either one. Another very common MMO theme is that if you want a hybrid role you give up a significant ability in both roles. If you want heavy/sustain you will not come close to normal levels of healing.
The only butthurt one seems to be you. You lack the skills so want to play the same meta that allows you to sit in heavy armor and heal away the damage from multiple people.
He’s a little musket troll that picked up the life staff for about 3 weeks then spent plenty of threads prancing around like a turkey thinking he’s suddenly an expert on the LS preaching a storm of misinformation.
Warmongs: Literally every Soraka
Kha’zix shines when players display bad positioning.
And in OW at least healers can actually fight back instead of being expected to stand there n die like in NW. Go figure lol.
I got to Diamond 3 in League of Legends and 4107 elo Grand Master in Overwatch. Played against pro players in ranked solo queue in OverWatch.
Mained support & top in League.
Mainly flex picked in OW. Back in season 6 thru season 15.
Ana, Lucio and Baptiste as support picks.
Reinhardt, Zarya and D.Va as tank picks.
Reinheardt / RoadHog / Orisa Tank picks
Mercy / Lucio / Mora Support picks
Soldier / Reaper Damage picks.
I sit on Plat.
League I hardly rank. Don’t like the system, people don’t cooperate just not for me. Norms a different story.
You have never won a war. Cope.
You are incoherent. I’m sure you have won a ton of wars. lol.
Well, yeah actually.
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