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AGS, stop labeling your faults as exploits in the game. This is getting out-of-hand. You. Are. Amazon.

Yet, you are unable to field a competent QA team? This is not the fault of the devs, this is 100% the fault of management decision making and the effort the QA team is putting forth when testing.

Allow me to reiterate, you. are. amazon. Get your shit together, stop labeling everything as an exploit to open the door for you to ban people for your own laziness.

Genesis boss farming, disable the respawn if its an issue? Seems like a very simple and efficient way of making sure it doesn’t get farmed! (lul) Why you weren’t able to do that - blows my mind. Instead you handed out bans.

Now you’re threatening to ban people for jumping through a window that AGS simply forgot to put collision over? You look pathetic.

Stop baiting your own paying players. Thanks

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Have to agree with this one. The correct move here is to allow entrance until you can patch it. Not ban some of the biggest fans of your game for wanting to access additional content that YOU put in. Instead of threatening bans how about a pat on the back for the person who discovered the way in? Let’s all get real now for once.

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I don’t think a pat on the back is the answer here. The issue is, they see the post and the first thing they do is label it as an exploit to COA. Not fair to your players at all. Do better.

i hate the “BuT yOu ArE aMaZoN” part but yes bans for simple things should not be handed out lightly. clipping to exploit something is an issue, but disabling the spawn of him or making him not drop anything should not be a problem as he is not even intendet to be reached now (speaking of thorpe). for genesis its the same there was nothing done to break the game the game broke itself and it should be fixed but banning for it should always be thought about.

always the question should be who got hurt and what size of exploit are we talking about.

genesis respawning: it hurts a tiny bit. so letting them know or a 24h ban i can get behind (for first occurance)

farming thorpe: see genesis

duping: hell thats a problem if done in larger scale so even direct permabans are fine by me as you cant do it multiple times without wanting to do it.(sure it can happen once ore twice if you are woring at your home but there is a limit thats reached fast)

i dont want to name every problem but the communication wasnt great on many parts so some players are even fearing for writing about a exploit they found and thats a problem.

please dont take it as salt. we all know the game has its problems and they are worked on. but please make the existing problems more visable. there has been none information ingame about disabling trading and why its there. there has not been a visable statement for thorpe as well. even if its just a infoboard ingame (accessable in menu) it would help improve visability a lot.

line one: Disabled wealth transfer due to an ongoing duplication exploit (link)
line two: Exploiting hitboxes to get to thorpe and farm him is not allowed and we will take action (link)

if you do it even as simple as this and have it in short wording you can find the information far easier and if you want you could even put an ingame article behind it.
many things are not easy to find in the forum as its so far spread in the categorys.

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This is an MMO. To have the expectation that if someone sees a boss (Thorpe for that matter) they’re not going to try and find a way to fight it, is lunacy.

Let me reiterate my point to you since you seemed to have missed it…

Genesis respawn - disable the respawn. No one would be banned. Why does he even respawn in the first place. Makes zero sense. Stop baiting.

Thorpe in Myrk - put collision on the window (not hard… at all). No one would be banned. Why is there an opening to the window to begin with if no one is to be there?

Again, LAZINESS. On top of that, they use a buried reply in a forum post as an official announcement to declare its an “exploit”? Amateur at best. Half of your player base doesn’t even come to the forums.

And yes, I will throw out the “BuT yOu ArE aMaZoN” card. Why? Because there are very few companies in the world that have access to the resources that Amazon has.

My initial post was not about game breaking bugs or how bad the game is. Its merely pointing out their pathetic behavior when faults of their own arise. I didn’t say anything about duping or any issues in the game. You can save your essay for someone else. Stick to the point.

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my post was ment for “until fixed”.

But ags is not amazon they have a limited amount of money/servers they can use so the its amazon card is BS. its like saying Activision cant have server problems as they have so many big games and are hosting for so long (cod/wow(i know blizzard but its under the same main company and they are getting merged more and more)/destiny/…) but still they have server problems on every release. Getting largescale server infrastructures to work effectively is a big and hard task and to see a “new” dev team pull off a game this size with that little problems on this engine is not a small thing.

to thorpe: every wall is computational power taken so reducing them is importent as performance is limited. the devs thought its not reachable why put a wall there then? see other games like Doom 2016 the roofs on many parts of the stage have no collisions. (almost every game has its tricks to reduce it) and on top of that he was reachable for a long time (i dont know when they closed it up as i was not part of alpha but it was reachable in preview) so having it not discovered is quite normal.

to not think about everything over a million players can think about is not theire fault. some bugs would have been preventable. but for example genesis respawning could just be a single flag set wrong. but it could be something harder that they had to explore more. in general they fixed a crapton of bugs and yes introduced some more but when you look at the states from beta1 release and now thats a great improvement for the time they had.

You seem to veer off of the point very easily. I’ll keep it short, no need for the essays you keep writing to beat around the bush.

That comes with the territory of being an Amazon owned company. And to be fair, the comparison of Activision to Amazon is null. You can’t compare a company that literally runs the internets servers to a game dev company. Also, a “new” dev team that has milked its players for more than enough cash to bring in more experienced resources.

They “thought” it couldn’t be accessed. Guess what, lazy again. Test it. And if you didn’t find it in testing, that doesn’t mean its a bannable exploit. It means make it priority to fix if its an issue. Stop punishing the players for their own faults.

This isn’t difficult to understand and I’m not sure how else to serve you my point.

That’s all.

just got hit with the random ban, did nothing wrong.

RIP AGS-NW at this rate

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