Proof dupers aren’t permabanned

Can I get a list of what you do want as proof for this witch hunt? I understand what you don’t want, but what specifically do you want?

Bro the amounts of copium you’re huffing in this thread is going to have you floating to the moon if you don’t cut the supply.

I’ll challenge you to something, to get your critical thinking skills back in order.

Show me one MMO where mass scale duping was proven to have been effectively punished to an extent that reversed it’s impacts on the economy.

The people who do this stuff for a living, like the people who make enough money to go buy a house 1 month into an MMOs launch because of RMT and exploits, are not stupid. They have no reason to post proof - it’s surprising enough that they wound up with a rat in their Discord to share the dupe methods publicly in the first place.

How about you quit taking the lazy road and go find these circles of people, then have a conversation with them about it that isn’t asking any kind of privileged information that will expose their methods or who they are. It’s not like they’re some secretive cult that don’t speak to outsiders, they’re just gamers making some good cash off an opportunity.

Like this: Tracable items and all their parents (fight dupe), it is either a shitty idea or worded poorly as it has gotten 0 traction. My experience says that it is a solid idea though and I haven’t been presented with anything that would break it.

You would need algos to score the offenders (amount of original dupes, amount of child dupes, the chain between you and the origin, etc, etc), and you might still miss some, but I think it would be enough to at least make it a non issue.

Relying on players to provide proof …

Why cant we have one well worded complete statement from the Devs about bans and also about removing gold/items from cheaters ?

The game has probably lost a lot of players because this is the perception of NW.

Actioned against can mean anything. What evidence do we have that people who engaged in duping were permanently banned or that the proceeds of their exploiting were traced and removed from the gameworld?

It’s just wishful thinking, especially given Amazon’s track record and all around professionalism.

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Pretty sure the last time they shut the market down they specifically said they were confident they could remove all of the items/gold generated from the dupes and punish the players responsible accordingly.

I have much doubt in that, but I don’t doubt they can at least punish enough of the less savvy offenders to give the perception they’re fixing things.

Irrelevant discussion to be honest, ship has sailed on a fair and balanced economy in this game for at least the next tier of content.

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Thats the exact peoblem with wording like ‘…wil be actioned’ that can mean anything from a conact saying you are naughty dont do it again, 1 hour ban a 24 hour ban, uou get to to keep the gold/you dont. They leave so much space to translate what you want people are saying no bans and they keep their stuff. This perception makes people leave.

Heres an example of another MMOs statement on how they were going to deal with an exploit :

‘Due to the nature of the exploit and the clear intent of those who abused it, they’ve been issued notices and given temporary suspensions from the game. We’re also working to remove all items from those who used the exploit’.

1 Sentence and the issue is clear.

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They’re trying to fix duppers, again… It’s time New World throws down the BIG ban hammer. No 24-hour ban, a COMPLETE ban.

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You understand what the solution is here, no matter what your stance is on vague phrasing around disciplinary action, right?

Well, trades are disabled again for a reason.
There is your proof.

If you think 100% of the duppers that caused this to happen again are new to dupping in new world, then you can still live this illusion as you please.

I believe that the OP phrased himself poorly or is being dishonest with a point he is trying to make.

There is a chance that he is asking for people that have had 24h bans due to duping but the way he wrote it doesn’t differentiate between people not banned at all and people receiving 24h bans. That not all people who duped are banned I think has been proven already even by OPs standards, he seems to ignore those arguments.

Seeing his responses in this thread though makes me think that it is more likely that he just wants to tell people to stfu if they don’t have any proof and he seems to ignore the reasoning that actually answers the question the way it is phrased. That is just my interpretation though.

You want dupers to proof in the official forums that they are already active on their main accounts after trade the materials from second/ third accs and put the gold into economy?

Well that’s smart. Witch hunting back in the days would be more fair than that. :joy:

It does not matter if the dupers get banned as long as they use expendable accounts and get away with the duped items on their main accounts.

The duping in itself needs to be fixed.

well dupers are back in game and saying in global it is totally worth it because they got to keep there stuff. bragging it was only a lame 24 hour ban.
so amazon cripples the economy to save the economy and then we all get taxed on property we dont get to benefit from. this game sucks.

Whats a perma ban? People can created a new bs email address buy the game and start over.

Lol, by most sane metrics account banning is all they are entitled to do.
What more do u want exactly?

Someone posted screenshots here of a person who was banned and their conversation with a dev or support. They said their were not any ruled regarding gold duping, and they said their account had been reactivated. Then he provided a screenshot of over 3 mill gold And a conversation between the poster here and the duper, saying “dude they unbanned me!”

I’ve literally read every post in the thread you referenced. It’s literally all screenshots.

Also, here’s another protip: People can edit pictures.

Here’s the most important actual fact:
DEVS HAVE STATED THEY HAVE PERMABANNED PEOPLE PURPOSELY DUPING ITEMS/GOLD.

If you believe random screenshots with no proof behind them over the devs, nothing will convince you.

What exactly would be proof for you? A person uploading a youtube video where they show themselves cheating and only getting a 24 hour ban?