Continuing the discussion from PTR: Seasons - February 24, 2023 Patch Notes:
The ME change is ok, revived the perk a little bit.
But damn why rip attunement…
my FS with attunement and empowering fireball is very sad today.
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Why do yall put 0 thought into everything you say lmao. Its 4% damage off a very tiny number. The “nerf” is that attunement will do 20dmg less 
oh no
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Pssst 
Take the wind out of the sails
They have no idea about the game. empowerment buff again!!!
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we need a dislike button for these forums
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Nerf is small and won’t be that noticeable.
Still a bis perk.
Why you cut off forti perforate though ? That’s a big nerf for spear pvp and PVE even if they alrdy gutted forti , makes no sense to me
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So attunement damage is now smaller than bane damage for melee weapons?
yea i dont think anyone understands why it happened.
only BB has fort cap now. Not only are you still while hitting perforate, no one wanted the weaken change on it, now you land all 3 which almost no one does unless opponent’s shift key is missing and you are at 30% fort ROFL
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30% if you have the perk on weapons , that people don’t if you want higher dps
200% is new Fort Cap, so 50% Fortify is only reducing your damage taken by 20.7% damage from what I have tested. The Impactful Strikes Stagger was removed from Perforate, so they had to touch up the ability and decided to give it up to 30% weaken. I still recommend taking Perforate on Spear by far, but the Weaken is the icing on the cake now for Perforate.
Weaken >>>> Fortify post patch. E.G., Fortifying Shield Rush might offer 32% Fortify per hit, but the 20% Weaken debuff is far outdoing the Fortify self-buff if you hit at least one target (have not tested when you have more than one target). Spear will still be able to singlehandedly get a player to Weaken Cap between Skewer and Perforate and Skewer can still nearly breach weaken cap if Enfeebling Skewer is on the weapon. In PvE, Weaken will have to carry you in far more engagements, but Spear like I said will still be capable of doing that.
Edit Not 19% but 20.7% 
20.7% DR Citation: 319 base damage from Boar was reduced to 253 damage with Last Chance buff activated.
S&S Fortify vs. Weaken: 316 base damage from Boar was reduced to 253 damage with 20% Weaken, reduced further to 216 base damage while hit with the 32% Fortify self-buff and 20% Weaken debuff. 20% Weaken damage reduction = 63, 20% a true value; 32% Fortify damage reduction = 37, 11.7%. In total, a 31.7% DR.
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who was getting hit by all 3 hits of perforate? Maybe free stack tier players. No way you are getting 30% fortify, and even if you do fortify is still the same. So overall F for spear.
Thought it was 250?
That was not the point, with 50% fort and gemstone or oakflesh, you could go upto 23% reduction which overall was still okay compared to how bad the devs butchered the fort mechanic. But now, its just nuts. Only weapon which has access to guaranteed massive fort is BB.
I have no clue who thought of giving spear a weaken ability on perforate, you were already doing so much damage and applying bleed weakens from skewer. Its a broken perk that was never needed, instead if gave the devs perfect tool to nerf fortify on top of the general fortify nerf. Spear’s main problem was always gap close, and if you can’t even tank while you are hitting people its a dead weapon.
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Some other folks source this better than me. Last Chance is just Fortify and not damage reduction so everyone is on even footing except for S&S which has Defender’s Resolve and Defensive Formation.
With stagger removed, prob not guaranteed to get all 3 hits from Perforate, but at least on Live there is a bug I and others have noticed which can consecutively concuss you with stagger (it is a finicky bug). A sweep into Perforate I am sure will guarantee 2 hits, the third is only guaranteed if the player has no stamina typically.
I would have preferred an animation cancel on Perf, but with it offering 1 buff and 2 debuffs (which ofc also ramp your damage from Exploited Weakness) I guess this will suffice. Spear is pretty bouncy as is so I can understand not giving Spear users that sort of free reign.
Last chance is a skill which triggers on its own without any reaction required and puts you on 50% fort. No other weapon even reaches close to that on their own.
At least spear needed a setup where you had to land all 3 perforate hits.
Thats a lot of ifs and buts. Regardless 50->30 is just bad balance. (i was never in favor of spear getting 1 extra weaken, Imagine if two idiots are hitting you → with 50% weaken + rend good luck outplaying bad players. Nw too newbie friendly)
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they basically made Sun Lord wing set totally useless when compared to Ancient set dropped for Starstone.
5 s.f. on light ‘Sun Lord’ gear is like +100 armor ? this is stupid
perforate fort is actually 30% on armor and 51% on weapon and its not actually that hard to get all 3 hits if youre willing to take a hit tbh. I often get a light attack and all 3 perfs.(I dont use sweep or vault kick)
oh I hadnt see that lol.
I dont use the perk anyway as it feels kind of useless in light armor as im constantly weapon swapping.