I’m not an LA player but I definitely think there should be more tanking playstyles than just SnS hold block.
There is a huge range between holding a Block and the abiltiy of the Rapier…
Yes, you need to be able to block. And you can do it with every weapon. But the Rapier is not blocking. It is tanking. And thats not necessary.
TBH im not entirely sure what point you are trying to make. The point I made was rapier could be a viable evasion tank… the game lacks variety… killing a playstyle doesnt add anything to the game it takes things away. It may not be “necessary” but who cares if its necessary as long as its fun. Its a game after all.
Ok, so the real tank need more variety. I agree with you. Give the Tank all the abilitys of the VG on his Shield… And for his Sward all the nice tank-abilitys of the IG…
Orrrr just make more weapons viable tanks.
you dont get my point , running away is low lvl thing abused by some until it gets boring.
i do it when there is no chance what so ever to do anything.
as bow player i cant do nothing in normal group fights others cant do better.
no cc land low dmg do nothing.
so i run around trying to find some solo player.
but as soon as i kill them i get nerfed .
then group shows up i run get nerfed again.
so whats the point of this class?
running away doesnt scale or brings anything
you will lose any time in a point capping game.
you fail to mention that.
synergy of heavy armour is not perfect but it wins rush every single time.
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Yes finally someone talking about this other than the lmb spammer bads. Out of 10 riposte atleast 4 times it just gets on cd without working and even when you can finally able to use it then they can trigger it and a half decent player will dodge out of it anyway.
I wish there would be some pvp video about these people who complain about the riposte because I rarely had problem with rapier users.
To be fair the only thing I can imagine is that the ones who complain are the 300str lmb spammers who got used to being immune to all the ccs just because thay can spam and when an ability counter exactly that playstyle they got mad.
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can we still discussing rapier before u guys patch it this week and make it really worse? @Luxendra
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Wait what? I am a Hatchet main, and it’s a terrible weapon right now. Half of the time, your skill hits don’t even register. And anyone can just outrun the Hatchet’s lunge.
Anyhow, Rapier is just too strong as an offhand weapon right now. It offers the best mobility and reactive CC there is with little commitment.
You see , i play melee GA/WH/Spear , and honestly i wouldnt be frustrated about the escape of the rapier , if i had a tool for grab you and put you close to my range , without that , i literraly can’t hit an rapier player that don’t want to stay in melee , at the moment . Let’s see after the february patch .
did he even acknowledge the fact that musket/bow can have a 10% movement speed buff with 100% uptime? lol
It’s not about the stun it is about how stuff you get from triggering riposte.
Iframes for a bit
20% CD reduction for all rapier abilities
Invanurabilitiy from any cc for several seconds(main problem if a rapier gets out of a something they shouldn’t it is because of this)
And the chance to stun multiple people for 2.5s
Yes it looks good on paper but in reality, it is a 2sec root which is a high risk high reward ability. If you use it badly you will just give your enemy time to position, if you time it well you can land a stun, IF he didn’t dodge out, if he does you will again just root yourself and give you enemy a free hit.
And ofcourse not going to talk about when you want to use it and its just not working and gets on cd. As I already said, im okay with it if they will just give it a simply on demand stun instead of the riposte’s defensive stun, like the hammer or shield stuns or the spear stuns, but it wouldn’t change anything people would still complain about it.
You just lie and lie and lie. The rapier is the #1 tool to run away and avoid being killed. You have not truly played against any rapier builds if you had no problem pursuing them. How does them using repost every 4 seconds make me inexperienced? Or using evade out of every gravity well I throw. You sir are out of your lane
If it was only good on paper most people wouldn’t be using it as there off hand weapon. Their is only a couple frames from when riposte deactivates to when they can roll away. Also I have heard that those few frames can be cancelled with evade.
Wtf are you talking about
So you cant handle a rapier player… and ripostle CD is 12 seconds… Also you might want to consider to find out a way to not hit ripostle… and dodge it, you will notice a difference
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So Spear - hammer - G. Axe stunlock is fine, it even got buffed with an extra root for G. Axe but rapier needed to be nerfed with DOUBLE the cooldowns on ALL abilities from the ONLY usefull tree it has.
Cool
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Folks that have stuck with one weapon set and thats it for their lifetime in the game just dont get it.
Yeah players who are quitting when their weapon gets nerfed were always going to quit. I have played 6+ different weapons until this point switching when changes are made I don’t like or when something else feels better. These changes are honestly good, everyone in the comments above acts like you can only use rapier for light armor and that using it with medium for the most unkillable BS ever doesn’t exist. It was just a little too good at kiting and denying damage, players can still do that same combo of flèche, dodge, dodge, evade, dodge, dodge, riposte, (full stam now leaving riposte), dodge, dodge, evade dodge. The only difference is they can’t constantly chain it to kite for ever now.
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