While blocking should be not possible to push back.
THis is why I stopped tanking, hate the mechanic.
There is counterplay. You can circle the smaller mob groups to stay within an area. For the bigger mobs obviously not, but perhaps that is the intention when getting hit by a truck?
If you get clipped out, yes that’s buggy coding and should get fixed. Has nothing to do with the general idea of the ‘feature’ though.
I personally find the gameplay mechanics in NW quite shallow, and removing pushing and collision would make it even more shallow. That’s just my opinion. Can’t argue with that just like I am not arguing with yours.
As a main tank I agree. If I have my shield up I shouldn’t be pushed back. Once my stamina goes then I get knocked and then I can get pushed back. Makes total sense.
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Dang, I never seen the dps and heals standing in front of the boss, that sucks. I usually give tanks a 3 count or so after boss is active before I dps. So if I pull I think it’s clear they are lacking taunt gem and or don’t actually have a taunt ability.
Unfortunately many look at Amrine as an expedition you can go in with any group make up. And yes that is sorta true, you can go in with all dps and make it, or other various combinations but it does tend to be rough and I prefer a proper group.
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Have you done all the dungeons? You need legit tanks.
HIlarious story actually.
Was running Depths last night as Tank.
One of the DPS was a Great Axe.
For the whole run, he would sprint ahead and throw Gravity Wells into packs of mobs before i could get anywhere near them, often throwing it while im running right next to him or even the rare occasions i broke off and a pack and ran for the next one he would throw it from behind me.
We get to the last boss. To quote the Great Axe guy who got one shot the instant the fight started across multiple attempts:
“WHY ALWAYS ME?!”
Didn’t have the heart to tell him it was a bad idea to drop a Gravity Well on the boss while its in its invulnerable startup phase.
Poor guy didn’t stand a chance, Even spamming Light Attacks into the boss in hopes of catching the hit before the Gravity Well affected the boss didn’t catch it in time.
Laughed harder than i should have. But DPS in this game have absolutely no respect for Tanks. I’m fairly sure at this point that the only people who know that whoever first engages a mob gets a big spike of initial threat that’s kinda hard to peel back unless a Taunt is used.
People got spoiled hard in Amrine due to Tanks not being necessary there on account of minimal damage (it is ‘babies first dungeon’ afterall) so now they feel like Tanks are a waste of a party slot.
Doesn’t help that most of the trash mobs are harmless in general. But It always makes me chuckle that a boss attack that does 1800~ to my 11k hp just instagibs the DPS.
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In all of my MMO gaming days as playing tank roles, this one broke me the most and I gave up, now fulltime dps.
Tanking needs a rework, constant force taunt cycling should not be a thing and tank threat needs majorly reducing. Most boring tanking in a game ive played in a long time, made me reroll to dps :(.
Get good.
Yeah most of the time the dps are brainless ( not all of them but it’s pretty frequent ).
Yes as tank you must positioning well, but that doesn’t mean everyone else can just spam and don’t care at all !
Some guys get rekt because they don’t look where the boss is facing, or they don’t look the attacks, patterns are importants, boss speaking etc…
But it’s nice when people compliments you about tanking ^^.
up until depths maybe… then wait last boss with this Strat and tell me how well it work?
i don’t say it’s impossible to kite him but having a brick of a tank with good block makes the fight easy while not having a good tank makes the encounter cancer.
or not… reverse stab reduces those cd by 25% they are not that long to be fair.
you can cut your huge aoe taunt stance by 50% basically.
Is it just me or does this not make sense? So a forced taunt cycle yet threat needs a reduction?
If threat is so great then why would you have to always taunt? My understanding is even blocking will create threat. Wouldn’t that make that make taunts only needed if a dps attacks first or an add spawn gets caught in a dps aoe or something like that.
you never doodge?
You dont have to force taunt but its entirely possible to cycle them with nearly full uptime. They shouldnt exist which is the problem and then the threat in the game is way too high. I quit tanking after doing depths as the last boss i literally attacked maybe 3 times? rest i just use force taunts and stood blocking. Its really boring and way too simple, threat should be something you have to manage and work to hold, not press a couple buttons and watch netflix on the other monitor.
I have to say this is right.
The worst part about combat is the fact you simply get CC’d and moved by everything that comes near you. A tank should rarely get shoved off his spot. That said, a tank should be a lot like a healer is now in that there’s ONE weapon set to allow you to tank. Sword and shield (like Life Staff and I know there will be more).
If you have sword and shield you should be immune to, at least, PVE knock arounds.
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I can see how it could get boring. I do like the change up from the classic style of tanking. Leveling in WoW tanks were often top dps while maintaining threat, now that was lame. Maybe fun for the tank but is out of balance as a group. In New World you truly are a meat shield. I have not done many expeditions yet so hard to judge the battles, but if it truly stays boring in all areas of the game maybe they will add a few more mechanics that tanks are responsible for later down the line.
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sword/shield + Hatchet + taunt gem in both weapon. easy to pull everything
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I noticed this too, but unlike others, I love it. I love being a meatshield, holding threat and dodging the big slams while DPS tear it up behind the boss. I could care less about what damage I do, as long as I can hold the boss and prevent the party from wiping. The DPS that like to stand in front of the boss though…thats another story 