Put a stop to sold m10s…

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Set 'em straight!

100%. This is what has made me more aggressive in responding to others on these forums. Some of the feedback from lazy and anti-social players is garbage.

i’ll bump this thread until they implement disable votekick at last boss or make shards tradeable

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wait what stops people from just leaving and inviting some one else?

its been a while and iv never bought or had to disband from a mutation like that.

or is it because when you are in the boss room you cant leave?

I could be wrong but I BELIEVE you can’t leave party mid-combat.

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i guess only option is to get enough points to take a single death at the end suicide one then leave once out of the boss room so its enitrly possible still.

I realized this about a week ago, I’m usually a passive player and then I thought about why I wouldn’t make the effort to lfg and for me I was just me being super insecure and afraid that ill get a toxic person who trashes me for not having bis gear or knowing the dungeon, but in my experience most people are chill, but the most vocal ones are garbage people who make you feel bad. As much as it should be easy to lfg, I think a group finder is gonna be necessary to make dungeons a more normal part of the gameplay. I mean I did amrine once and then didn’t do another dungeon until well after 60 because I had one player in that amrine group who made a comment about me not healing them good enough. I have been thinking about this a lot esp. because of chest runs and it seems like people are sneaking around the game in general and not actually taking advantage of all of fun activities the game has to offer. When I see that it makes sense to me that people bail on the game and badmouth it because they basically wanted to be gollum in lord of the rings instead of a member of the fellowship. Lol. Alright drunken rant over…

I didn’t realise people could make so much money. Might have a guild meeting tonight

What needs to be banned would be companies who abuse territory income to make IRL money by selling gold

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I see your point and problem, but honestly, they need something more than just stopping the sale of m10… They way i got to run m10 was by making gold and then buying some umbral shards to get to 620gs fast and be able to run m8 and the improve my gear by grinding. If I can’t buy umbral shards that would have taken me far more time, so you won’t be fixing the problem you talk about, people won’t have an easy time getting to M10, they need something more to make easier to reach M10… Otherwhise this problem won’t be fixed.

You can get to M10 super easily now. Do gypsums once a while and you will have more than plenty of umbrals.

Sorry you had a bad experience it is rough doing s dungeon when someone is critical. Only time i offer a suggestion is when it is affecting a run but i do it in a way that is supportive and non-confrontational.

The biggest issue in this game is mediating between players of different levels of investment and ability. A simple way to do this is the scale lower level enemies to that of the player just for that player in a group so 60s can play alongside level 20s and so on. Fallout 76 for all its issues did this really well eventually.

i will also say that in most game a good pvp player make a good pve player the oposite isn’t true, tho AGS could have build the game around it’s player mecanics and make monster behave / be affected the same way player do that owuld have teach people how to pvp.
Sadly clueless stat tcheck monster is the way to go has i been told in this forum having a mindless pve experience for 95 % of the game is “good”

Ihas i typed up i think the issue is that the game don’t even atempte to truly teach player vs player interaction using pve.

Ithink this is false, altho mutation introduce some “new” mecanics to learn i would bet that if you gave the gear to people most of them will beat it without much issue. The hardest part of mutation come down to gear grind imo.

Yea but this isn’t profitable for (% out of my ass) 90% of the PVP player base. Not only that but it creat a big snowballing effect within theg ame that affect pve aswell driving price up.

that is an insane ammount of time doing something you don’t want to do i don’t think you realise, not to mention the time you already took to reach pvp in the first place. Most people have 1 to 2 hours of play time, (on the eek end)

yea and perhaps withing 2 or 3 week you can upgrade 1 weapon yikes…
(assuming you play a lot, upgrading trough pvp isn’t an option gearing is okeyish for mid tier and barely possible for optimal build)

i think the main issue is that it’s not convenient, AGS should just make them tradeable.

Just so we’re clear, the non-PvP related chores are less than 30 minutes, and can be done while queuing for PvP. That is almost laughable.

If that is too much a burden, then I reiterate that maybe these players aren’t as hardcore as they pretend.

In no game do the top competitors just log in and play. There’s significant amounts of research and work involved. In comparison, these gypsum chores are negligible at best.

Maybe lobby games are a better fit? It’s been historically proven that the best PvP players in games have no issue with PvE.

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IF you have 2 hours to play a saturday this is 25 % of you’r play time doing something you don’t like you don’t want to do, this is a lot and wasted time.

That one of the reason on why mmo is a dying genre most people don’t want their time to be waste and most of these players don’t go all out on forum complaining asking to fix X Y Z they quit the game.

Who care about you’rs or someone else definition of hardcore, it does not matter at all not only is that a confuse concept but it represent a small minority of people within an already niche type of player.

That i completly agree, but i would add that it’s an issue that could be somewhat “fix” the game simply don’t teach you how to pvp trough pve, even more since monster arn’t affect by you’r input same way players are + they don’t have the same ability.

So since we have already covered multiple times that you can do this while queued for PvP.

What exactly, in your mind, would you be doing during this time instead?

Who cares?

The person I was responded to, apparently.

See?

You’re jumping into parts of a conversation without acknowledging the whole dialogue.

EDIT: Since the time you replied to me, I’ve done 3 arenas while farming Serenity Monastery and look what they just threw at me:


Another 20 minutes later and I’m at:

That’s 8 gypsum, while queuing for 3v3 arena, and I haven’t even started OPR.

With OPR rubies, that’s 4000 umbrals from gypsum, 1200 from PvP track, and whatever OPR awards me, in 2 hours of gameplay.

It’s easy, it’s convenient, you just have to put forth a little bit of effort. You don’t even NEED to do it, but it does help.

Being a top performer always takes a little bit extra work.

yea if you’r on a dead servor, on mine i have to wait at best 2 to 5 min most of the time it pop within a minute.

My bad, i just find this harcore vs casual gamer such a dry and empty fight.

this umbral shard drop is random so far since i’have returen to the game i saw it pop 3 time (one time i had to choose between a “good” piece of equipment and that. It certainly drop from time to time but it’s not reliable.

Ok nvm i just realised you could get umbral from gypsum, i guess this is fine then
(but still i think these should be tradable)

I’m on Orofena, the most populace server in North America, arguably the world.

Seems a reasonable request.